Is Unlimited REALLY Unlimited?

mfwl said:
Totally agree with this, however; the only thing I would argue about as a 'devils advocate', is the reality of 'unlimited bandwidth' and the said advertising of unlimited bandwidth.
In advertising this service the host could be excused in the fact that the host does NOT apply a limit therefore they could say it was 'unlimited (by them)'.

The fact remains that the bandwidth is naturally limited by the connection speed eg:

100Mbps dedicated connection
(100mbps x 60secs x 60mins x 24hrs x 30days = 259,200,000Mb)

1Gbps dedicated connection
(1Gbps x 60secs x 60mins x 24hrs x 30days = 2,592,000Gb)

Correct me if I am wrong! - PS this is shared throughout all users on the server! Even so it is so high it could be considered unlimited as it would take a miracle to reach it!
Plus technology even with fibre optics to your desktop pc would still not achieve this level or data transmission.
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Hello,

I agree with you. When I said 'unlimited bandwidth' I meant there is a limit but to get to that point is alot. But, there is a limit. Hopefully, I have cleared the air.
 
I have issues believing that anyone can properly oversell the services that they have to offer. Sometimes (esp. for newbies) it gets so insane that people are offering things they do not have. I guess I am just skeptical.
 
Its fine to offer unlimited if you can supply!

There really is no problem with a company to offer unlimited resources, as we have heard here many large successful companies do offer just that - the proof in the sales technique is the supply of these services!

Uptime, business length and positive feedback are all things that a prospective new client should be examining before settling with a host. It is well known that 90% of us all have tried more than 2 hosts before becoming satisfied with our current provider!

Research is the key for the client, not only initially but throughout the term of hosting. Customer service and suppying demands is the responsability of the Host, you will never find a successful Host operating without these whether they offer unlmited resources or not!
 
mfwl said:
There really is no problem with a company to offer unlimited resources, as we have heard here many large successful companies do offer just that - the proof in the sales technique is the supply of these services!
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So it's OK to be a liar and practice dishonest business as long as your sales are good?

I will never buy this argument.
Yes. People may fall for this scam but that doesn't make it right.

Fortunately there are clients out there that prefer to have an honest relationship with the host and don't always go for the cheapest quickie that is on offer.

Fortunately there are people out there that don't just run a personal blog and actually depend on their sites being online that don't fall for these scams.

This is what keeps honest hosts in business even though we may not be the "big guys".
 
Blue said:
So it's OK to be a liar and practice dishonest business as long as your sales are good?

I will never buy this argument.
Yes. People may fall for this scam but that doesn't make it right.

Fortunately there are clients out there that prefer to have an honest relationship with the host and don't always go for the cheapest quickie that is on offer.

Fortunately there are people out there that don't just run a personal blog and actually depend on their sites being online that don't fall for these scams.

This is what keeps honest hosts in business even though we may not be the "big guys".
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Hey Hey hang on a minute... Noone said it was ok to lie! I neither support nor dissaprove of the unlimited resource pitch. I merely started this thread for some healthy discussion on the reality of this idea. Personally I don't believe that a host should offer Unlimited diskspace as it is not realistic. My quote about playing devils advocate over the presence of an unlimited bandwidth arguement was purely from the fact that it was physically limited by connection speed and time.

We (ACE4SPACE) are not the smallest fish but by no stretch of the imagination are swimming with the big fish in this pond, therefore we understand what you are saying.

We believe that the essential thing a host should be offering is good customer service, value and reliability.

The main course of action for a client looking for a host is research! I started the thread to bring to attention the pitfalls of purchasing hosting from a host that offers unrealistic resources without a history of customer satisfaction and quality, thats all...

I am sure you will agree that if it saves one person from being disappointed then this thread was worth all the posts!
 
Hosting Irony Lol

AH JohnJ said:
Nothing is unlimited, so I definitely wouldn't choose a host that advertised unlimited resources.
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HaHa you post a oneliner followed by your signature that reads 'Hivelocity - The UNMETERED Specialists'

Not being funny but thats ironic!
 
mfwl said:
HaHa you post a oneliner followed by your signature that reads 'Hivelocity - The UNMETERED Specialists'

Not being funny but thats ironic!
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There is a very big difference between offering Unmetered and Unlimited.

One is a reality and one is a blatant lie.

There is nothing ironic about it.
 
Blue said:
There is a very big difference between offering Unmetered and Unlimited.

One is a reality and one is a blatant lie.

There is nothing ironic about it.
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I fail to see the difference between unmetered and unlimited please can you tell me the difference?

This is an honest question, not looking to victimise...
 
Obviously no one can offer unlimitied... But with some many companies advertising unlimited web hosting it is almost a requirement for a hosting company to advertise "unlimited hosting" in order to be competative.
 
You need to really check CPU limits and terms of services, if you are checking any unlimited hosting webservices.
 
mfwl said:
I fail to see the difference between unmetered and unlimited please can you tell me the difference?

This is an honest question, not looking to victimise...
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Don't worry, I don't take questions as an assault.

If I offer a client a set bandwidth, say 10Mbps per month, I can offer that at unmetered. This means that the client can use the entire 10Mbps pipe but they will run out of bandwidth if it goes above that.

If I offer a client a 10Mbps per month pipe and suggest that it is unlimited bandwidth then it would be a lie.

Everything has a limit.

For the record, I'm not a fan of the "unmetered" term either, but it is an honest term as opposed to "unlimited".
 
Blue said:
Don't worry, I don't take questions as an assault.

If I offer a client a set bandwidth, say 10Mbps per month, I can offer that at unmetered. This means that the client can use the entire 10Mbps pipe but they will run out of bandwidth if it goes above that.

If I offer a client a 10Mbps per month pipe and suggest that it is unlimited bandwidth then it would be a lie.

Everything has a limit.

For the record, I'm not a fan of the "unmetered" term either, but it is an honest term as opposed to "unlimited".
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Thanks for that. Appreciated you taking the time to comment.

I didnt realise the difference but on reflection what you say is fair!

I will review an items in our own packages that this effects.
 
Wow this is interesting. So I guess it's not really unlimited. It's kind of like nothing is free. For example cell phone services that claim free nights... but um... aren't you paying for free nights? So how then is it free? Same concept here how is it unlimited?
 
Show me a place where I can buy an unlimited hard drive in a store, and I'll buy two, one for me, and one for you! Unlimited just doesn't exist, there's ALWAYS a limit.

Overselling is done by many hosts, it's a shame. If you have a server with a 400GB hard drive and you're paying $140/month for the machine and bandwidth (low end machine), how can someone offer 50GB of disk space for $3.95/month without overselling! It's all a scam with unlimited hosts and extreeme disk space & bandwidth for pennies.
 
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