Is Unlimited REALLY Unlimited?

Nothing is free or Unlimited. If unlimited was real there wont be a site on the web that runs so slow or has overload.
 
The unlimited is not an arbitrary limit,it is not used by a single person.It means as long as you don't affect other's usage you can take up the diskspace and bandwidth as much as possible.
 
mfwl said:
Totally agree with this, however; the only thing I would argue about as a 'devils advocate', is the reality of 'unlimited bandwidth' and the said advertising of unlimited bandwidth.
In advertising this service the host could be excused in the fact that the host does NOT apply a limit therefore they could say it was 'unlimited (by them)'.

The fact remains that the bandwidth is naturally limited by the connection speed eg:

100Mbps dedicated connection
(100mbps x 60secs x 60mins x 24hrs x 30days = 259,200,000Mb)

1Gbps dedicated connection
(1Gbps x 60secs x 60mins x 24hrs x 30days = 2,592,000Gb)

Correct me if I am wrong! - PS this is shared throughout all users on the server! Even so it is so high it could be considered unlimited as it would take a miracle to reach it!
Plus technology even with fibre optics to your desktop pc would still not achieve this level or data transmission.
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Hello mfwl,

I too agree with this. Actually unlimited refers to 'a limit that can't be reached with the existing technology'. It is actually unlimited to the users even though you can find the limit with calculations. The users can use the high level of resources without any problem. This will change only when new technologies come to conquer it.
 
Lipstick on a pig as far as I'm concerned.
Unlimited is a lie. Call it a marketing ploy if you like but at the end of the day it all boils down to a host lying to a potential client in order to gain their business.
 
mfwl said:
The fact remains that the bandwidth is naturally limited by the connection speed eg:

100Mbps dedicated connection
(100mbps x 60secs x 60mins x 24hrs x 30days = 259,200,000Mb)

1Gbps dedicated connection
(1Gbps x 60secs x 60mins x 24hrs x 30days = 2,592,000Gb)

Correct me if I am wrong! - PS this is shared throughout all users on the server! Even so it is so high it could be considered unlimited as it would take a miracle to reach it!
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Original thinking. :)
BUT, does that mean that YouTube, that was estimated by one blogger to be running through 25 Petabytes in monthly bandwidth usage back in 2006, could go for one of those $4.95 unlimited hosting deals? They could have really saved on their $300M bandwidth bill for 2009. :D
 
Originally Posted by mfwl
The fact remains that the bandwidth is naturally limited by the connection speed eg:

100Mbps dedicated connection
(100mbps x 60secs x 60mins x 24hrs x 30days = 259,200,000Mb)

1Gbps dedicated connection
(1Gbps x 60secs x 60mins x 24hrs x 30days = 2,592,000Gb)

Correct me if I am wrong! - PS this is shared throughout all users on the server! Even so it is so high it could be considered unlimited as it would take a miracle to reach it!
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I'm not sure where this quote came from, but the numbers are wrong. The above formulas start with bits per second and end with bytes of bandwidth. A 100Mbps dedicated connection max's out at approximately 33 Terabytes of bandwidth (using 8 bits per byte). Before you ever get close to that type of bandwidth on a shared account, I'm betting you will have exceeded your providers TOS allocation for CPU and RAM resources, prompting termination of your account.
 
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Claims of 'Unlimited' anything have no place in the web hosting world, and I am continually alarmed by how many web hosts continue to hang on to that lie, and sadly it must be attracting some people who don't know any better, or else you think they'd stop advertising it by now :(
 
It's a marketing twist that companies use. Personally, I don't believe that it's entirely ethical because it's also not entirely true. Offering unlimited storage or unlimited bandwidth, but attaching miniscule CPU, RAM and a tiny uplink is what is really occurring. Sure, they aren't directly capping your bandwidth or storage, but the other resources place an indirect cap on them.

What's the point of storing 100 GB of data for download if it take 3 months to download it all. Also, the storage is no good for applications as the CPU and RAM isn't there to run those applications on the server.

So the answer is a yes and no. Technically, the things being advertised as unlimited are not being limited by the host. However, the hardware limitations do impose a limit. The better question to ask is, is it ethical to offer "unlimited" anything when you know full well there are limits imposed by the hardware?
 
The limits are not being imposed by the host or the hardware.
They are imposed by the laws of physics. There is no such thing as unlimited.
It is not partially unethical to offer it, it is completely unethical. It is a lie.
 
ronweeks said:
I don't believe in unlimited. How can someone offer unlimited? Is a server unlimited? Not really.
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Nope, it's really not unlimited :L no one can offer "unlimited without overselling! anyone offering unlimited is usually an overseller...

- Many Thanks,
 
One thing seems to be a given is the discussions concerning "unlimited" web hosts are unlimited. No matter which web hosting forum I visit they just keep on going, and going, and going.....
 
I don't think they're really unlimited. It's because when they say "unlimited" bandwidth and disk space, it does not guarantee you on what they're saying. Better believe on the trusted ones like BlueHost and HostGator.
 
Why?
Unlimited is a lie regardless of who tells that lie.
Why do you keep mentioning bluehost had hostgator?
 
Blue, I’m starting to ask the same question.

After keeping an eye on this topic and delving in at one point. Despite everyone’s attempt to almost put a final end it would appear that as IT IS ethically wrong to offer any physical items that have physical limitations in any unlimited claims, some still believe that it’s ok if Bluehost or Hostgator do this....

Putting this into perspective for those still in doubt, how would you react if your local pub where to start advertising “the Unlimited Pint - £1.50” and on the cardboard mat on the bar “ ONLY if never drank”

Nothing goes on forever, the term unlimited means having no limits in range or scope. However the moment terms come into play this word is unethically used and often misinterpreted, as such think hard on the next two sentences, if you can then think it is ethical to continue to use the word unlimited regardless of your market position or stratagems then I’m sure we would all be interested in the reasoning.


Hosts say “it’s unlimited as long as you don’t.... “Or “as long as you pay....”

So if we put a limit on unlimited what does it become?


"To start with a theory of unlimited freedom is to end up with unlimited despotism"- Philip Rahv
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Nice! I like your stance! Can't believe this has generated so much interest? I only started the thread as I was annoyed myself! Lol
 
I agree with you completely on all of your statements. I think it actually doesn't benefit the customers when you offer unlimited.
 
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