Will servers go out of style?

cheapdedicated said:
In fact sometimes its the other way round. Someone starts with a dedicated server then along the way they realize they were not well informed. They are spending way to much for resources they do not need. Their current need can best be served in a cheaper VPS and they make the move. Its a very normal occurrence that will not mean one is killing the other.
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Yes it goes both ways as i have seen people start a hosting business straight away with a dedicated server when they don't have any clients or reputation, which to me is daft.
I always recommend anyone started a hosting company to get a reseller account to build up a clientbase and a reputation and then move onto a VPS.

but no matter what hosting you run you will always need a server
 
easyhostmedia said:
Yes it goes both ways as i have seen people start a hosting business straight away with a dedicated server when they don't have any clients or reputation, which to me is daft.
I always recommend anyone started a hosting company to get a reseller account to build up a clientbase and a reputation and then move onto a VPS.

but no matter what hosting you run you will always need a server
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The people who go straight to dedicated have the right idea, you gotta pay to play and to do things right the first time... The problem is things don't always go as planned and you end up with less customers in the beginning, things get out of wack financially and then you end up kicking the bucket. So another vote for starting with a quality but inexpensive reseller hosting plan for new web hosts.

As far as Servers going out of style... I think that as mentioned before 'cloud hosting' will begin to cannibalize the VPS market a bit, but there will always be a place for a VPS and Dedicated servers. Some people like private and or custom solutions for example. Another thing, if you need a big IP range, cloud hosting is not very good with that typically.
 
doublespaces said:
The people who go straight to dedicated have the right idea, you gotta pay to play and to do things right the first time...
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Not really as you will end up paying $100+ a month for server then $40+ for a control panel then costs for various other things like Softaculous, so could easily be $200 a month and you have no clients.
At that rate you would last long
 
I have to say that I disagree with going straight to a dedicated server because that's just overkill upfront. There's nothing wrong with a reseller account, then VPS or dedicated from there.
 
SenseiSteve said:
I have to say that I disagree with going straight to a dedicated server because that's just overkill upfront. There's nothing wrong with a reseller account, then VPS or dedicated from there.
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Exactly.

Its best to start small and build up a strong clientbase and a reputation and then move to VPS or Dedicated
 
easyhostmedia said:
Not really as you will end up paying $100+ a month for server then $40+ for a control panel then costs for various other things like Softaculous, so could easily be $200 a month and you have no clients.
At that rate you would last long
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Did you even read the next sentence? Actually, that is rhetorical, its obvious you read one line of my post and conveniently left the rest of my post out of your quote. My post is in contrast to people who want to do everything for free and cut corners. At least these people have the intelligence to know that a paid setup is ultimately required. But I have a feeling you knew that and are more interested in disagreeing.
 
doublespaces said:
The problem is things don't always go as planned and you end up with less customers in the beginning, things get out of wack financially and then you end up kicking the bucket. So another vote for starting with a quality but inexpensive reseller hosting plan for new web hosts.
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Please use this part of my post to continue on your quote. So you said, "Not really."

Go ahead, I'll let you continue from there and tell me how you disagree with the above quote:
 
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doublespaces said:
Did you even read the next sentence? Actually, that is rhetorical, its obvious you read one line of my post and conveniently left the rest of my post out of your quote. My post is in contrast to people who want to do everything for free and cut corners. At least these people have the intelligence to know that a paid setup is ultimately required. But I have a feeling you knew that and are more interested in disagreeing.
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Yes i did, but you stated people that go straight to a dedicated server have the right idea, which they don't for the reasons i stated
 
easyhostmedia said:
Yes i did, but you stated people that go straight to a dedicated server have the right idea, which they don't for the reasons i stated
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Clearly it wasn't a full statement. This is what was said exactly:

doublespaces said:
The people who go straight to dedicated have the right idea, you gotta pay to play and to do things right the first time... The problem is things don't always go as planned and you end up with less customers in the beginning, things get out of wack financially and then you end up kicking the bucket. So another vote for starting with a quality but inexpensive reseller hosting plan for new web hosts.
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Which I agree with. It is good to be aware that money will need to be spent if you plan to get into the hosting business. Obviously just throwing money at things isn't smart either if you are constraint by a strict budget, but the opposite mentality isn't healthy either, thinking you can get by with lesser plan/setup for as long as possible, placing customers and yourself at risk of overloading your plan/server, just to save a few dollars.
 
easyhostmedia said:
Exactly.

Its best to start small and build up a strong clientbase and a reputation and then move to VPS or Dedicated
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Yeah, if you are cheap, broke, or don't have time or knowledge to manage a server. From an operational standpoint a vps or dedicated is the best way to start, for obvious reasons. And if you read my post above about VDS you'll note its easy to start as VPS and seamlessly upgrade to dedicated.
 
well the way i see it

no matter if you want to use

shared
reseller
cloud
VPS

These always need a datacentre with servers as what else are these to be hosted on.

i can see the only difference is as technology advances then 20,000 sq ft datacentres will be a thing of the past
 
I think servers will just evolve and grow as time goes by but never totally be unrecognizable as in some form or another hosting will always be needed.
 
Collabora said:
there are also VDS's that are not like standard VPS.

The difference between a VPS and VDS is simple. A VDS instance takes up the entire server whereas a VPS is a server configured to host multiple server instances. The distinction between VPS and VDS lies in the fact a VDS gets dedicated server underneath the layer of virtualization while a VPS shares the underlying server with other virtual private servers created on the same node.
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I am not sure on how the confusion began BUT what you describing is technically a "Smart Server". Where a single VM sits in an actual machine and sucks up all the resources within.

A VDS on the other hand is where you get actual "cuts" of the server. For example instead of most VPS providers BS "vCores" you get actual CPU allocations. Meaning a VDS that have 2 CPU cores will means you will be able to max out both CPU cores 24/7 assuming it's a genuine VDS.

VDSes are generally popular for gamers as they literally the next best thing to a dedicated server. However they are quite hard to come by at decent pricing for RAM and some time SSDs. Which is why some just skip it and just get a dedicated unit.
 
I think that terms like VPS or Cloud hosting are just terms of the technology used. As these terms might change during time with something different that won't be surprise but the term server(dedicated) won't until the technology completely changes. I don't see that coming any time near.
 
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