Will servers go out of style?

[SenseiSteve]

is it not good to get clients to learn how websites appear online

I am in complete agreement with you that it is good for clients to learn how websites appear online. Saying that, I just know that many of my design clients could care less, and if I told them today, they'd forget it by tomorrow, and I don't think what I do is so different from other designers. I constantly attempt to educate them, especially about security, and I do think some of that is sinking in.

 

[easyhostmedia]

I constantly attempt to educate them, especially about security, and I do think some of that is sinking in.

i think we all have that trouble. I think clients think like 'if its working it does not need fixing'

I am constantly trying to get clients to keep their scripts upto date, but it never sinks in.

I am so looking forward to manually updating outdated scripts next week as it will take me a full day

 

[MechanicWeb-sho]

Clients never listen to their providers when it comes to script updating. In my experience, most of them do not update their WP until it is compromised.

That being said, let's shed some light on the original discussion. I do not think server is going to be phased out anytime soon, or ever. New technology will come, like cloud or VDS but physical servers will always be there. Same goes to VPS.

The major influencing force for VPS vs cloud is the price. VPS should always cost less than that of cloud.

 

[SenseiSteve]

Clients never listen to their providers when it comes to script updating. In my experience, most of them do not update their WP until it is compromised.

That being said, let's shed some light on the original discussion. I do not think server is going to be phased out anytime soon, or ever. New technology will come, like cloud or VDS but physical servers will always be there. Same goes to VPS.

The major influencing force for VPS vs cloud is the price. VPS should always cost less than that of cloud.

You're absolutely right. I have to wonder what's coming down the pipeline though as I've seen so many changes over the past 19 years in this industry.

 

[easyhostmedia]

I have to wonder what's coming down the pipeline though as I've seen so many changes over the past 19 years in this industry.

I think Dedicated servers will become cheaper and more accessible

 

[MechanicWeb-sho]

You're absolutely right. I have to wonder what's coming down the pipeline though as I've seen so many changes over the past 19 years in this industry.

Get ready for VDS. Many big providers already replaced their physical dedicated servers with VDS and they will only tell you if you ask is this a physical server or VDS?

 

[Artashes]

So what I gather from most responses so far is that a SERVER will stay, but beneath it all. It will be the packaging term/marketing lingo that will change instead. We might not refer to it as server hosting per se, but might refer to it as cloud hosting or whatever else the new name of it will be.

 

[vladimir]

I think the word server can have a different meaning, depending on who is using it. Cloud hosting, VPS hosting, VDS, and shared hosting all require a server to make them run. So no matter how you use a server, they will always be needed, and they are here to stay.

 

[MechanicWeb-sho]

So what I gather from most responses so far is that a SERVER will stay, but beneath it all. It will be the packaging term/marketing lingo that will change instead. We might not refer to it as server hosting per se, but might refer to it as cloud hosting or whatever else the new name of it will be.

Yes, terminology will change and new technology will be available. There will be new marketing scams, too. Look at cloud hosting. When it was introduced to the market, it looked so promising, in reality, many cloud hosting providers are just offering VPS. I fear same is going to happen to VDS. Some will simply start to offer VPS by the name of VDS and get away with with the same way 'unlimited' packages are getting away.


Btw, why don't I get any notification when someone quotes me?

 

[CherrryServers]

Have you read anything about the term "MAAS" ( machine as a service) ? I am sure dedicated servers are not going to go anywhere

 

[Artashes]

Have you read anything about the term "MAAS" ( machine as a service) ? I am sure dedicated servers are not going to go anywhere

First time I hear about it, but I just looked it up (btw, isn't it "Metal as a Service"?) Very interesting, a lot of big names are behind it.

 

[easyhostmedia]

First time I hear about it, but I just looked it up (btw, isn't it "Metal as a Service"?) Very interesting, a lot of big names are behind it.

Yes it is "Metal as a Service"

http://maas.io/

 

[cheapdedicated]

Yes it is "Metal as a Service"

http://maas.io/

It deploys very fast but only tried it for purposes of trial not commercial.

 

[Collabora]

Yes, terminology will change and new technology will be available. There will be new marketing scams, too.... I fear same is going to happen to VDS. Some will simply start to offer VPS by the name of VDS and get away with with the same way 'unlimited' packages are getting away.

An erroneous evaluation, I must say, and probably based on ignorance of server management. Just like there are hosting plans that are not based on typical quota limits (absence of quota limit = unlimited), there are also VDS's that are not like standard VPS.

The difference between a VPS and VDS is simple. A VDS instance takes up the entire server whereas a VPS is a server configured to host multiple server instances. The distinction between VPS and VDS lies in the fact a VDS gets dedicated server underneath the layer of virtualization while a VPS shares the underlying server with other virtual private servers created on the same node

Since a VDS is a virtualized server instance tied to a single dedicated server the provider has a more robust management capability compared to a regular dedicated server. For example, its easier to upgrade from a VPS to a VDS than from a VPS to a dedicated server. Since these services are provisioned virtually, the newly purchased server resources can be delivered to your server on demand.
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[CherrryServers]

First time I hear about it, but I just looked it up (btw, isn't it "Metal as a Service"?) Very interesting, a lot of big names are behind it.

Yes, exactly, I wrote it wrong

 

[cheapdedicated]

I'm trying to wrap my head around everyone going with a VPS. An awful lot of the clients I've built websites for do not understand the concept of shared hosting, VPS or dedicated servers, much less even know what cPanel is. I would think as a hosting provider, there's always going to be a ton of profit to be made from selling shared accounts. I'm curious how the transition to VPS would take place and what factors would drive that trend.

I think it will be a long while definitely not in our generation but as users get more and more information about VPS and Cloud hosting with all its benefits over standard shared hosting, the heat will be turned on to shared hosts. I the long future I see an evolution towards cloud solutions than standard shared hosting BUT I cant see how dedicated servers would easily be over run.

 

[MangoXchange]

it seem that more and more people moving from normal dedicated server into cloud or vps hosting to cut cost. Since cloud and vps is much much more cheaper.

 

[cheapdedicated]

it seem that more and more people moving from normal dedicated server into cloud or vps hosting to cut cost. Since cloud and vps is much much more cheaper.

Well we very often get clients moving from VPS to Dedicated servers so I guess this is a normal scaling move depending on the needs of the clients which may not point to the extinction of servers in my view.

 

[easyhostmedia]

Well we very often get clients moving from VPS to Dedicated servers so I guess this is a normal scaling move depending on the needs of the clients which may not point to the extinction of servers in my view.

it happens everyday

someone starts with a shared account and outgrows that so moves to a larger reseller account, then outgrows that and moves to a VPS and then when they outgrow that they move to a dedicated server.

 

[cheapdedicated]

it happens everyday

someone starts with a shared account and outgrows that so moves to a larger reseller account, then outgrows that and moves to a VPS and then when they outgrow that they move to a dedicated server.

In fact sometimes its the other way round. Someone starts with a dedicated server then along the way they realize they were not well informed. They are spending way to much for resources they do not need. Their current need can best be served in a cheaper VPS and they make the move. Its a very normal occurrence that will not mean one is killing the other.