You DONT have to be cheap!

Go even further

Mrdredd,

I agree with your post, but I would go even further. Web hosting, like it or not, is a commodity business, and that is evidenced by the fact that lowest price is the basis on which people are competing. Unless you have the discipline and logistical power of Walmart you are going to live a very meagre existence trying to carve out any profits competing on price alone.

The way I would go further than what you say in your post is, as a web hosting business owner, find a way to charge the most amount possible for web hosting.

You are dead on when you say being the cheapest attracts the wrong kind of customers. YOu end up with customers that have no loyalty to you whatsoever who will drop you like a hot rock the second something cheaper comes along.

Which is why you want to charge as much as possible, without pricing yourself out of the market completely. Try double the current pricing of your low cost competitors to get started with, and then move to triple as quickly as you can.

As you do this though, think of everything you can include in your service that doesn't cost much but has a high perceived value. Things your customers want, might want, would definitely take if offered, things related to their using their web hosting that would help them 1) get things done more easily, 2) be more profitable (if they are using it to sell), 3) help them automate all the busy work associated with hosting , and so on.

Load up your service with "goodies"; things that take the frustration out of trying to get things working, things that make it easy to use, things that help them shorten their learning curve, step-by-step instructions for "everything", screen shots of control panels, pull down menus, "show them" exactly what to do. Give them audios to talk them through things that may me difficult for newbie. (I remember trying to figure out FTP with the first hosting package I ever bought, took me two days straight uninterupted going through each miniscule step, going back and forth to the help section trying to understand it. I finally figured it out but was a little resentful I had to go through all that in the first place.) Give them camtasia videos that show them "exactly" how to use all the parts of their service to get the results they wanted initially out of getting hosting in the first place.

All of the above has a low one time cost (for you) associated with it. But it has incredibly high percieved value for your customer. Because it is saving them TIME. By giving them these you are saying to them, "hey, you are important. Your time is valuable, I respect you and I want to get you to high operating proficiency so you can get the most value with this service as quickly as I can. So here is exactly what to do. No need to figure it out, I've already done it for you. Just follow these steps."

The more you can load up your service with these kinds of value added goodies, the more you:
1) differentiate yourself from every other web hosting co out there
2) create goodwill and customer loyalty
3) can legitimately charge more for your service.

The way to make it a no-brainer buying decision for your customer is to list out all of the extras that they get with your web hosting service, (the "goodies") and attach a dollar value to it (e.g. what it would cost if you got a $95/hr computer services consultant to come and do this for you), add up the dollar value of all the goodies and make the comparison with the dollar value of what they are receiving and the actual price in dollars they pay for your web hosting. And then guarantee the whole lot.

So lets say you put together 11 or 12 really high percieved value goodies that you can legitimately say would cost them $1,214 if they had a computer professional come out and spend time to do for them, but come included as part of the service when they enroll in your Silver package, a bargain at $14-95/mo. Of course there is even greater value with even more amazingly helpful and useful videos, audios, ebooks showing you every aspect of making your web hosting experience joyful when you upgrade to the Gold package, an amazing value at $19-95/mo.. And so on.

The more value you can add to your customers' experience of your web hosting, the more you take low price off the table as a factor in their buying decision. Plus it gives you a lot to talk about in your marketing, giving you the ability to differentiate yourself from the pack as no other of your competition is able to.

Oh, and yes, you will have a business that actually makes a lot of money because your customers will love you, feel great about paying you more than anyone else out there, and can't help trying to convince all their friends to use you as well.

This probably ruffles the feathers of people who think going the cheapest price route is your only choice. But if you want to make any money at all it's what you have to do. What you discover when all the cheapskates have been banished from your customer database is that, people are happy to pay extra if they feel they are getting good value.

Ben
 
I think yoiu have to draw the line between economy and diversity. Different people have different needs. Some hosting companies might be looking to make mega-bucks out of their server whereas others might just want to cover costs. Cheaper is not always better. Especially when looking into dedicated hosting, the customer is often swayed by price...in a negative way. Many reviews out there (mostly entitled "You pay for what you get") portray the idea that a cheaper hosting solution means that you get little technical support or lose out on many features you expected to come standard. The company through which I host, Globat.com, give me a decent 'hosting' service, but many of the additional features, such as Support seem to be replaced by insentive schemes more than anything else.
Free webmail is one example of Cheaper being better, but then again if you offer a customer a free webmail account, they often wonder why on earth its free. I would go for a more balanced approach, whereby you offer diverse packages at differing prices. These allow the 'budget' buyers to be seperated from 'optimists' in a way that offers the client what they want...and only that (giving them piece of mind at the end of the day).
~Equinox
 
I'm not pretty new here but from reading this forum, I must agree with Equinox.

For all the people in the industry, Owners, Sales Representatives, etc. we all seen this around happening. Small companies coming from ground up, and trying to build up to the big guys.

Now the problem it creates for them is that very few of them have any experience, most of these people look at running a web hosting as easy work to make few bucks or big bucks. In other words not being serious. Some do have the understanding but not the income to support it.

Without the income, they try to run as resellers and offering very low prices. I mean there is tunz out there of companies that I myself came across, who are offering 10 GB of disk space for under $10 per month. Now, if you compare them to large, long time business companies like (not to name any for advertisement purposes), you guys know which ones I am talking about, 10 GB of disk space is never offered by the big guys, and if it is, it sure wont be for $10 or $20 a month.

We have quite a few customers who we charge the monthly fee and a setup charge, some have problem with the setup fee on it's own, simple answer to the setup charge is that we need to pay our staff, we need to pay the bills, etc. Work has to be done, for an account to be activated, processed and controlled. Sure, control panels out there and the automated billing systems are almost too automatic. It simply doesn't end there though and if it does, theres a problem with the company.

Having quite a few customers we still charge the setup fee but we have waived the monthly charge for about 15 months, we still charge the setup fee (little fee). A company simply wont be free on any levels or at least the service they offer. The company has to pay the bills and so does the customer. We dont classify our company as being cheap cheap or even lower than cheap, just simply because we offer free 15 months of service, it's an offer and we stand behind our service with your setup fee.

Anyways, I could go on and explain it all in like a 20 page article that I have wrote. Simply not worth it any more, to many little companies, making the market crappy to actual companies that can back themselves up with other income in service they provide.

Hope everyone understand and hope i didn't put down anyone or company. It's crazy in the market we are in, because of the market we are in and the big mix it has. Every month we run a research project to find out how many of the new companies are actual companies, 80% come as little or ones that take the money and you will never get what they told you, thats being very directive on support or customer service.

A summary of the above is simple, too many companies with not enough to back themselves up, this is why the pricing is going down and down to even $0.99 for huge allowances. Our company few years ago just got into this field, our backup comes from our local store locations and computer services. That is where our experience started at in the Computer Repair and Computer Product sale, now supporting our second part of business online for web hosting.

Thank you. :)
 
ldcdc said:
Going cheap can be a smart business decision. Going insanely cheap is not.

There is a market for cheap hosting, there is a market for more expensive hosting and there is a market for outright expensive hosting. I can see a company having 3 brands and catering to all those markets.

Fact is there will always be providers for all kinds of customers. Where there's a demand, there's a provider.

Some hosts will aim to get $4000 out of a server. Others will aim for volume and thus be content with $1000 per server or less.

To answer your question "Why go cheap?": because cheap hosting is a huge market, whether we like it or not, and some hosts will cater for that market. Why shouldn't you be one of them? ;)
Well said :)
 
Being a reliable host should be at the top of every webhosts agenda yet obviously is not with the cheap hosts or the so called crazy hosts.

Browsing these forums I'm seeing INSANE pricing 1000MB Diskspace and 100GB Bandwidth for $30 a month. http://hostingdiscussion.com/showthread.php?t=4730
Has got to hold the most craziest offers I've ever seen, aside from unlimited Space and Bandwidth.:eek::crazy2:

The question is, how long will these hosts be around? I can bet atleast 80% will be gone within six months.

The consumer has to think whether they can afford to host their website with a host that is cheap yet not reliable.

The average host will probebly make X3 as much profit as the cheaper hosts..... Who's going to invest in customer support? In new software and improvements? Definately not the so called crazy hosts. :)
 
Fisherman said:
Being a reliable host should be at the top of every webhosts agenda yet obviously is not with the cheap hosts or the so called crazy hosts.

Browsing these forums I'm seeing INSANE pricing 1000MB Diskspace and 100GB Bandwidth for $30 a month. http://hostingdiscussion.com/showthread.php?t=4730
Has got to hold the most craziest offers I've ever seen, aside from unlimited Space and Bandwidth.:eek::crazy2:

The question is, how long will these hosts be around? I can bet atleast 80% will be gone within six months.

The consumer has to think whether they can afford to host their website with a host that is cheap yet not reliable.

The average host will probebly make X3 as much profit as the cheaper hosts..... Who's going to invest in customer support? In new software and improvements? Definately not the so called crazy hosts. :)
You shouldn't make blanket statements when you havent done much research...

Nowadays, it's not too expensive to lease a server with an unmetered 10/100mbps line, about $350/month... This is why offering unlimited bandwidth is, in my opinion (read: i dont offer unlim, I'm just throwing this out there...), not as bad today as it was 2 years ago when those servers would have cost much, much more...

Also, you can get a server via ServerMatrix with 1200GB/month for little more than 99/month including cPanel... That's less than 10c/GB transfer, and that host is offering 100GB for $30 (or 30c/GB), thats more than a 300% markup, which in any industry is a pretty large markup.

100GB for $30 is not morally reprehensible, its good business if managed properly. Whats morally reprehensibe is the people who offer these prices with no intention of providing the services.
 
Browsing these forums I'm seeing INSANE pricing 1000MB Diskspace and 100GB Bandwidth for $30 a month.
If you think that's insane, be prepared for some really shocking offers out there. :)

EnDream Host, your calculations are pretty rough. In real life that 300% markup isn't really there (for a business that plans to have employees, pay for advertising etc). Going a little further... is that $100 server able to push 1200GB per month of traffic? ;)
 
EnDream Host said:
You shouldn't make blanket statements when you havent done much research...
And neither should you.... Not too sure if two years of solid research would qualify as research by your standards?

EnDream Host, personally the chances of managing that quota for that particular price, are extremely thin. The countless horror stories I've heard in relation to so called unlimited and outrageous quota only contribute further to my theory.

While I agree with the fact that offering unlimited was much more discriminated againest two years ago than now, I certainly don't support it and neither does a large chunk of the web hosting industry, for a very good reason.

Overselling can be a good practise if done correctly, and honestly $30 for 1000MB Diskspace and 100GB Bandwidth is definately not a good practice.

Thrown into the mix, we have businesses unwilling to provide their advertised services which are entering our beloved industry rapidly.

You need to understand that a large majority of those offering services like this either cannot live up to the gauruntees they make or simply will not be around for the long haul, I'm sure anyone working within the industry will agree with me there.

That is the point I'm trying to get across here.

ldcdc said:
If you think that's insane, be prepared for some really shocking offers out there. :)
I've seen much worst but the amount of hosts offering things like this on this and other boards is what i'm trying to get my head around. :)

ldcdc said:
EnDream Host, your calculations are pretty rough. In real life that 300% markup isn't really there (for a business that plans to have employees, pay for advertising etc). Going a little further... is that $100 server able to push 1200GB per month of traffic? ;)
I definately agree there, the calculations are definately rough.
 
It annoys me when people lower there prices and offer unlimited everything, you can't beat that but I dont think they should do it. I am starting my hosting company up around march/may and I am not having low prices, my prices will be based on time/quality/fees and %profit. Some hosts seem to lose out it seems and close down straight away.
 
All i have to say is WELL DONE and i couldnt agree anymore! and for the businesses that are cheap thats their problem let them do it and get the cheap customers...if their service is bad then dont go with them. Its them that will fall apart.
 
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