Why should we pay for WhoIS guard?

First, I'll ignore the fact that for a business man, I had to re-read your last few posts numerous times, to understand a thing you were saying (you may want to consider working on that as customers typically don't like needing an interpreter to understand something that appears to be english)

In any case, I can sum this up in just a few sentences.

1. There is nothing immoral about charging for privacy guard services.

2. I have not seen one legit business WANT to hide their contact information. In fact, they want their contact information splattered on every street corner if possible. Thus, Privacy Guard or it's fees really isn't a topic for actual businesses.

3. The only people that Privacy Guard and it's fees apply to, are those who want to hide their contact information. This may be acceptable for personal websites and hobby sites, etc, but absolutely not for businesses.

4. Why not charge for Privacy Guard? The fact is the hosting industry is being raped by children offering 200GB of space and "unlimited" bandwidth for $0.99/month, that the least a hosting customer can do is actually pay for something in their online endeavors.
 
ANMMark said:
First, I'll ignore the fact that for a business man, I had to re-read your last few posts numerous times, to understand a thing you were saying (you may want to consider working on that as customers typically don't like needing an interpreter to understand something that appears to be english)

In any case, I can sum this up in just a few sentences.

1. There is nothing immoral about charging for privacy guard services.

2. I have not seen one legit business WANT to hide their contact information. In fact, they want their contact information splattered on every street corner if possible. Thus, Privacy Guard or it's fees really isn't a topic for actual businesses.

3. The only people that Privacy Guard and it's fees apply to, are those who want to hide their contact information. This may be acceptable for personal websites and hobby sites, etc, but absolutely not for businesses.

4. Why not charge for Privacy Guard? The fact is the hosting industry is being raped by children offering 200GB of space and "unlimited" bandwidth for $0.99/month, that the least a hosting customer can do is actually pay for something in their online endeavors.
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Well now you don’t have to get all personal and attack me in a very smoother way coz i don’t think i got all personal and attacked you, i was just trying to make my point and make this thread lil interesting as the person who start the thread pointed out " Why should we pay for WhoIS guard?"

So You say its ok, and i say its not, and so if anyone wanna pay to hide their own details they can, and if anyone don't wanna pay,.... then they don’t have to, they can simply go for a domain name registrar who offer the same service for free.

And i never mentioned any where that a business should hide their details, i was making my point in general simply because publicly disclosing your details on the net can be very dangerous, but whenever a legal issue arises the registrar can always provide the accurate contact details of the domain owner since the company has it in its databases and to provide them to the relevant authorities. And it’s a very simple process which will not cost anything in large scale.

And im sorry you had a very hard time understanding what i was saying, so i would surely work on that. Tanks for pointing out and no hard feelings :) Peace out :santa:
 
Lets stick to the thread and not attack anyone personally (finger pointed at no one)

My intention behind this thread is to demarcate requirements for whois records. Like there may be business users who want whois records visible, even their tel. and resi/office address, but there are far greater no. of people who don't want anything other than name and email address be visible. So, question is how do we balance it out so that both the populations benefit?

Why should we pay for hiding it, when such a feature must come as default from ICANN or registrars and anyone who wishes to have their tel and address visible, may opt out and have it visible.

I am not against display of whois records, but display of telephone no. and residential address in case person is not a businessman or is using domain for reasons other than business, lets say have a family site and so on.
 
Dev4vip, please point out where I personally attacked you in my post. In fact, the only time I pinpointed you at all, was to give you some friendly advice on your grammar, after you stated that you were a business man. After stating such, you really should be careful how you spell things, and the grammar you use to communicate. Very much the same as if I were to speak to a Japanese client, then completely butcher their language, I doubt they would be too happy. Generally speaking, as a business, if you are going to speak to someone in their language, you should always strive to do so properly. That's just friendly advice, not an attack.
 
ANMMark said:
Dev4vip, please point out where I personally attacked you in my post. In fact, the only time I pinpointed you at all, was to give you some friendly advice on your grammar, after you stated that you were a business man. After stating such, you really should be careful how you spell things, and the grammar you use to communicate. Very much the same as if I were to speak to a Japanese client, then completely butcher their language, I doubt they would be too happy. Generally speaking, as a business, if you are going to speak to someone in their language, you should always strive to do so properly. That's just friendly advice, not an attack.
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It is better to pass friendly advises via PM, and not in open. When posted in threads, such so called friendly advises are visible to everyone and person you intend to advise, may feel offended or other members jump in to advise him or argue over it.

Anyways, lets come back to topic.
 
bandboy, you seem to have me all wrong. I usually just say what everyone else feels.

Keep in mind, my title is "Community Advisor" thus it is part of my job to help "advise the community". The advise I gave benefits anyone who wants to go in business and has the idea to speak slang to the public and their customers.
 
ANMMark said:
Dev4vip, please point out where I personally attacked you in my post. In fact, the only time I pinpointed you at all, was to give you some friendly advice on your grammar, after you stated that you were a business man. After stating such, you really should be careful how you spell things, and the grammar you use to communicate. Very much the same as if I were to speak to a Japanese client, then completely butcher their language, I doubt they would be too happy. Generally speaking, as a business, if you are going to speak to someone in their language, you should always strive to do so properly. That's just friendly advice, not an attack.
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I wrote a reply but then again i decided to withdraw it, coz i dnt wanna waste my time or others time by dragging this on. So Good luck to everyone who wanna pay for Pvt Registration :thumbsup:

Dnt ever think im just running away, coz im not. its just that i dnt like to argue with people who think that they know everything.

"Learn to let go and be freeeeeeeeeee"

Peace out
 
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I absolutely respect your view, and in fact the majority of my post in question was on the topic of your views, not your grammar. It just so happens that my advice on your grammar was pinpointed rather than my post in it's entirety.

As an advisor I should be polite. As a human being I have an opinion, and my opinion and prerogative is to be honest and straight forward. Sometimes that hurts people's feelings, but no one can ever say that ANMMark sugar coats anything. My statement wasn't intended to hurt your feelings, humiliate you, or make you run off. My statement was meant as I said it, advice. I don't think I know it all, and I am the first to admit that I don't know everything.

I merely stated that it took me numerous times to read your post and determine exactly what you were saying, and that you should be careful when you communicate to your customers in that manner, as it reflects badly.

Most of all, please don't make the mistake of thinking I don't care about everyone's views. Everyone has different views, which is what creates a community, and gives people like me a reason to jump in. ;)
 
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