Unlimited space and bandwidth is unrealistic

SenseiSteve

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In web hosting, a marketing rage in the past few years has been the offer of unlimited space and bandwidth. The only thing I can think of offhand, that is really unlimited - is time. What kind of servers are these sites being hosted on anyway? What’s the largest hard drive physically available? If I wanted bandwidth at 1129 Tbps, would that be possible?

There are real physical limits on bandwidth and space.

The bandwidth available to data centers in the Midwest is different than the bandwidth offered, for example, in NY, Dallas, LA and Chicago. Data centers have to pay upstream providers for the bandwidth they offer to their clients. Some upstream providers with varying latency on their network price out lower or higher than others. Data centers routinely offer a blend of 3, 4 or more providers through BGP (Border Gateway Protocol), but can offer a preferred network with failover to a blended network - significantly reducing the end client’s bandwidth cost.

Are unlimited plans at $3.99/Month realistic?

In one word - NO. I’ve yet to find one offer of unlimited space and bandwidth at any price that doesn’t have a corresponding TOS and AUP that addresses the specific bandwidth and space allowable. So why do so many hosts offer these packages? It’s all about perception of value - to the unsuspecting general public. The offer sounds fantastic, until you buy into the plan and get canceled by that provider for violating some clause of their TOS. I read threads every day of the week posted in forums on the Internet by unsuspecting clients - wondering why their account was canceled by host xxx?

Compare this to your own business.

Do you find that managing your prospects expectations works out best? That ‘never needs sharpening’ knife isn’t really going to last forever, is it? Here’s a simple question to ask any provider that offers unlimited bandwidth. What size uplink port do you offer? Whether its 10 or 100Mbps or GigE, does that relate to a finite amount of bandwidth monthly? Unlimited - not hardly! How many other users are sharing that port? How saturated is that provider's bandwidth?
 
Quite true. I hate the word unlimited, perfer unmetered. But these plans offering so much for so little price is just a marketing techinque and pretty much bs. Everyone does it these days though.
 
I don't know about everyone overselling like crazy but overselling done right can bring in more profit/customers. Did you know that 90% of the people hosting only use 87% of there disk space.
 
Well i remember a friend of mine got his account suspended because of this. As he thought unlimited was unlimited, and used alot of diskspace and bandwidth.
If it wasn't for all the restrictions theres no way they could offer a "plan" like this.
 
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That is why I encourage people to run from sites offering unlimited space and bandwidth becuase there is no way you will ever see or get to use UNLIMITED SPACE and BANDWIDTH....So, in two words for this "Run away".
 
Yah,Tru
Any company will not offer you UNLIMITED DISK SPACE and BANDWITH really!
just ask a question yourself ,
if i can have UNLIMITED DISK and Bandwith at a low price why i should pay for dedicated server ?! it’s a fact that Any Hosting company will not offer you Real Unlimited Disk Space and bandwith, but when they say that they offer you Unlimited Disk , in most cases you will not have problem with Disk Space or Bandwith,otherwise you website be too Big or Busy then you should try Reseller/Vps Plans or even Dedicated server depended on your Website, but normally in most cases there wouldn't be any problem, but for Big or Busy websites the only way for you is going with Reseller,Vps or Dedicated
 
"Unlimited" bandwidth is unrealistic because it gives people the illusion that they can use as many of the company resources without getting suspended. Which of course will happen if someone tries to go for the "unlimited".
 
Yes, it's true that *unlimited hosting* is nothing more than a marketing gimmicks. It's also true that web host offering unlimited hosting services are sometimes misleading.

However I'm not totally against this. Unlimited, after all, is virtually possible. A good web host that's doing well-managed overselling is actually doing good thing for the users. Think about the kind of hosting features we are getting nowadays - compare that with 5 years ago, we are getting so much better deal (in a much cheaper price) than the old times. Overselling (I mean those well-managed overselling) actually helps (or encourages) a lot of people to start off their website.
 
"Unlimited" is just a glorified way web hosting providers have found to trick people into thinking they are getting more BANG! for there buck. If you find a host that advertising 'unlimited' they are an overseller and head for the hills. Its little things such as this that will separate the good from the bad hosts. There is no such thing as unlimited! PERIOD!
 
also stay away from those 300 gb disk space and 1 TB + bandwidth plans because that is impossible and a bad marketing strategy. If there new to the web hosting industry they will think they can use all that space/bandwidth. Plus most clients never read the TOS. So the web host will suspend there account once they use so much disk space in there opinion because they state in there TOS that they can.
 
There is no such thing as unlimited! PERIOD!

Well now, how about the unlimited email addresses/domains/databases that just about every host offers? Are those infinite? Any hosts around with say 1 milion domains on a server? :)
 
Well now, how about the unlimited email addresses/domains/databases that just about every host offers? Are those infinite? Any hosts around with say 1 milion domains on a server? :)

No difference.
Unlimited is a lie. It is a physical impossibility.
 
I would have to agree, overselling is nothing more then a deception to the visitor, its one thing to over sell w/limits, but when you are offering an unlimited plan, that's not only lying but just wrong. Do i agree that overselling is a good marketing advantage ? Yes. Do i believe that most hosts offering unlimited plans end up having poor support, and have hidden fee's (late fee's, bandwidth overage fee's, quota overage fee's) hidden in their TOS ? YES!

The point here is just be honest with your customers, tell them that the specs of the package will be no different then getting an unlimited plan. Your biggest package will cover anything you need and is dedicated to YOUR account.

Just my input anyhow, i am new to the forums and plan to contribute to the posts.
 
In web hosting, a marketing rage in the past few years has been the offer of unlimited space and bandwidth. The only thing I can think of offhand, that is really unlimited - is time. What kind of servers are these sites being hosted on anyway? What’s the largest hard drive physically available? If I wanted bandwidth at 1129 Tbps, would that be possible?

There are real physical limits on bandwidth and space.

The bandwidth available to data centers in the Midwest is different than the bandwidth offered, for example, in NY, Dallas, LA and Chicago. Data centers have to pay upstream providers for the bandwidth they offer to their clients. Some upstream providers with varying latency on their network price out lower or higher than others. Data centers routinely offer a blend of 3, 4 or more providers through BGP (Border Gateway Protocol), but can offer a preferred network with failover to a blended network - significantly reducing the end client’s bandwidth cost.

Are unlimited plans at $3.99/Month realistic?

In one word - NO. I’ve yet to find one offer of unlimited space and bandwidth at any price that doesn’t have a corresponding TOS and AUP that addresses the specific bandwidth and space allowable. So why do so many hosts offer these packages? It’s all about perception of value - to the unsuspecting general public. The offer sounds fantastic, until you buy into the plan and get canceled by that provider for violating some clause of their TOS. I read threads every day of the week posted in forums on the Internet by unsuspecting clients - wondering why their account was canceled by host xxx?

Compare this to your own business.

Do you find that managing your prospects expectations works out best? That ‘never needs sharpening’ knife isn’t really going to last forever, is it? Here’s a simple question to ask any provider that offers unlimited bandwidth. What size uplink port do you offer? Whether its 10 or 100Mbps or GigE, does that relate to a finite amount of bandwidth monthly? Unlimited - not hardly! How many other users are sharing that port? How saturated is that provider's bandwidth?

You are right .. It is virtually impossible to offer such facilities.. I have had many experiences with these so called unlimited sites.. I wanted to build a video site and they rejected my offer because it would eat up too much bandwidth.. What it means?? Unlimited bandwidth???
 
You are right .. It is virtually impossible to offer such facilities.. I have had many experiences with these so called unlimited sites.. I wanted to build a video site and they rejected my offer because it would eat up too much bandwidth.. What it means?? Unlimited bandwidth???
If you're planning on a video site, you'll be eating up some bandwidth. What kind of traffic were you projecting?
 
Unlimited everything is a tough card to sell. I guess they are playing it it catch 21. There is nothing like unlimited. Those companies go out of business.
 
Unlimited offers are kind of like the used car salesmen of the web hosting world. But just like auto manufacturers stepped in and started offering "authorized" used car programs, at some point this kind of snake oil will be recognized for what it is.
 
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