Just what's wrong w/ the hosting industry today

[Nationhosts]

http://www.webhostingforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=576

This is getting sad I posted this. Look at the kiddies trying to defend themselves.

 

[doooob]

I would just like to point out some of the mistakes you made in your argument (and to be honest you seem just as petty as the "kiddies", you made your point but there’s no need to argue back LOL)!

In the UK:

- Students leave school at 16 and go into work, start there own business or go into further education.

- Do not judge "kiddies" to be all the same maturity! In the UK this is perfectly legit (in the US I would of thought the same to).

- NoChex TOS: 2.1 You must be at least 16 years old to use the
NOCHEX service.
- FastPay: If you're 16 or over, with a UK email address and current account, you can sign up. Sole traders and limited companies can apply, and you don't have to bank with NatWest. If you have all the necessary information to hand, applying online is quick and straightforward.
(Just two of the companies that I have found.)

- In the UK the rule goes: You can start your own business from the age of 16. You have to register with the tax office, if you are earning less than 4k a year you are not eligible to pay tax. Then you just keep working up until you have to start paying tax and charging vat etc

- Some "kiddies" now have a better knowledge and education than some adults.

I don't wish to start an argument with you, but I just thought I would set you straight on those few things. Yes you can object to it but you can't change the law Also if you are confident that "kiddies" know little about business then you should not see them as your competitors. The consumer will learn the hard way, and then they will realise they need to look for a pro host, like me and you...

 

[interactive]

I've been looking over the rest of the forum, and I think I know why they don't believe you. I don't think any of them really know what it's like supporting a largeish customer base. See this poll: http://www.webhostingforum.com/showthread.php?threadid=156

Now to each their own, but their experience with 5 customers doesn't realistically reflect large-scale support (500+) - it just doesn't scale.

Now the fact that they have the acronym wht censored - that's odd.

-David

Haha, did you see this

189 shared sites. about 10 resellers, I had about 70 dedicated server customers however I was reselling for burst the time now offer my own dedis but haven't sold them yet, and about 6 colocation clients. So overall looks like my shared is the most popular.

Just another reason to sort of stay out of the hosting industry directly...

 

[Nationhosts]

The general shared hosting market is oversaturated as it is. You'd really be better off with your local community getting sales, but with dedicated servers and colocation it seems like it's all about competition getting the lowest pricing with the top notch specs (on WHT anyways). It seems that forum doesn't deal with dedi or colo that much, mainly shared hosting and resellers.

 

[dwhswebhosting]

I wonder what the average life-span of a web host is now.

Ya I wonder too. it keeps getting harder and harder for new companies.

How can you compete at $2.50 even if you beat the price you need 2000 customers to quite your day job.

It took us years to get big enough to not worry about price fluxuations that much anymore.

Good luck to the new companies.

 

[Hurga]

We've been in business 9 years. But, with all the cheap providers, we have had to lower our costs. Now, even with our lowest possible offer, people are still transferring to get with the $1.00 providers. Even when they complain about the support of the other company, and say they are very satisfied with ours, they still go for the cheapest price. It truly is a sad state of affairs.

 

[ozarkhost]

Nationhosts I agree kid don't belong :box:

 

[Howard K]

I guess its the same reason I've read stuff there. It's just fascinating to see just how misinformed some of these people are and they are giving advice to others on how to run a business. It's madness. Yes I do agree without a mod who's experienced or some experienced hosts in the community to give input, these people are completely lost. It is precisely the reason why most threads are garbage and no one is setting them straight.

 

[gemmie]

There are too many children in the business. Dirt cheap prices...5GB storage and 20 GIG transfer. They're gambling on each customer not using anywhere near that. So customers go with lower prices and then....they need support, which never comes.