Is bluehost right for me?

csn-uk said:
Im not yet sure on this, not sure if anyone else is ether but we offer "unlimited" database's/email accounts, subdomains and the likes as do almost everyone else although the only restriction on this is the size of your package a.k.a if you had say 1gb diskspace you couldent have two email accounts with 2gb inbox's each..

i dont in anyway agree with the terms unlimited or unmetered in bandwidth or diskspace as this is overselling however i am yet undercided for subdomains, databases and email for example as these all have the physical limitations of the package the customer agrees to.
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for disk limit i agree, but for bandwidth - it may be set as "unmetered" and it is NOT a lie to no one, dont forget, there are 2 kind of limits -

Logical - depends on if your host will set a limit on his control panel for your account.

Physical - depends on the uplink duplex speed of the
server / datacenter / ISP loads

I always say, give your clients AS MUCH AS YOU CAN! , just do the right math when you put the numbers in.

For a 1Gbps server or a 100Mbps server the math is not the same.

keep that in mind!

so its limited , not metered!
 
Artashes said:
I think he worked for Bluehost before he ventured out on his own. So my guess is he is using his own company servers to host himself now.
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That's correct. But if I hadn't had my own servers and wasn't such a control freak(need's root) then I'd see no reason why not to use BH.

We obviously all have our quite different opinions, so let's just agree to disagree on some of those points. :)
 
siforek said:
Unlimited databases, emails, etc? What about those offers?
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Very good question, and something I really had not thought much about before, but I still say that claiming unlimited ANYTHING is a hard claim to prove. Of course if they said something like "we provide as many email addresses or databases that you may need" is a bit more honest of an answer, because it doesn't claim to be truly unlimited, but that they just offer what you should need.
 
I think this is getting into semantics... we do advertise 'unlimited emails, databases, etc.' - it's understood that it is within the limits of your disk and bandwidth allotment. Think that's pretty common. This is an evolution from when years ago hosts would offer just a few like 5 or even no databases on smaller accounts. But the software we used was very different. For example, the email server on my previous company (many years ago) we paid license fees per email account so we did limit the number of them. And databases had to be setup by hand, and were intensive on the server so again we placed limits based on the account size. These days such things are expected.

Looking at Merriam-Webster online http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unlimited
The first definition is "lacking any controls : unrestricted" and one could make an argument we don't place a artificial control on that particular aspect itself it's only limited ( using the 2nd definition "boundless, infinite") from the control on bandwidth and disk space. Interesting that the 'infinite' definition is second with 'lacking controls' being first though. Also interesting is that I got a hostgator 'unlimited space & bandwidth' ad at the top.
 
There was a discussion about this on WHT recently with Matt actually commenting. Apparently they will now limit accounts by the amount of resources they use, and not hard disk space or bandwidth. I suppose it is possible if they have a huge cluster setup where they can simply add hard drives and provide an "unlimited" amount of space.

They compiled a custom kernel that will enable them to track down exactly what user is using up the CPU, RAM, etc.. and how much. If that user goes overboard, instead of suspending the account, it will throttle that account sort of like using QoS.

Would be interesting to see how it works to say the least.
 
But then, if they begin to limit your account because of the amount of resources that you are using, then that would mean SOME things are still being limited on you, and thus they still cannot claim to be offering you "unlimited everything" , since you are in fact being conciously limited in at least one way on their part.
 
In short, no, bluehost is not for you. bluehost is no good, find a reputable host that does not oversell.
 
JamesCWilson said:
Very good question, and something I really had not thought much about before, but I still say that claiming unlimited ANYTHING is a hard claim to prove. Of course if they said something like "we provide as many email addresses or databases that you may need" is a bit more honest of an answer, because it doesn't claim to be truly unlimited, but that they just offer what you should need.
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It's not hard to prove, it's impossible to prove because it doesn't exist.
It's very easy to disprove.
Email addresses, databases and the like are no less affected by the laws of physics than disk space and transfer.

I don't see why it's so hard to have a little honesty in advertising.
 
bjorn said:
Hey guys,

I'd like to know of Bluehost is right for me. I get about 2000 unique views per day and around 8000 page views most days. How's the support there? Do they oversell?

What are your thoughts? My primary traffic comes from the US.

Thanks,

Bjørn Élca
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Based on your traffic, a lot a shared plans would work for you. The bigger question is where you project that traffic one, two and five years down the road. Will you need an upgrade path? Does Bluehost offer one?
 
I actually started my company because of bluehost. And I have a majority of my first clients due to bluehost as well, so thanks bluehost.

I personally have never heard of unlimited disk, and I would love to see what would happen if you actually tried to use such a thing. Overselling isn't / wasn't so much of a big deal to me, but those servers had to have been pushed beyond reason.

I wouldn't use them if I had to do it again, and I know a ton of people who feel the same.

Just remember, they offer 'unlimited' storage, along with about 6Tb of bandwidth for only a couple of dollars. Those servers MUST be oversold to support that type of usage.
 
BlueHost.com is a bullsh it webhosting ! Just take a look here:

http://i41.tinypic.com/72dh91.jpg

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Actually your site seems active and oversellers and active sites dn't work out too well. Go with some-one who would give you what you pay for.
 
Blue said:
Email addresses, databases and the like are no less affected by the laws of physics than disk space and transfer.
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And I am not disagreeing with you either :)

That's why you can offer customers a REASONABLE limit, and tell them up front that there IS in fact a limit, but that it is a fair one. But then of course, you risk getting into an argument over what exactly a fair limit is...
 
bluehost sucks oversold allot and will suspened your account if you use more than 2gb of your space despite saying 200gb.
 
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