How to know the hosting promise are perfect.

Anikit said:
Recently i had a word with hostindia.net(https://www.hostindia.net/) sales team for a hosting plan and the plan was good, but when I ask about the bandwidth limit they inform me it is unmetered, but I though it means unlimited.
After that my sites run good for few months and after that my site goes down some long time when I asked the reason they inform me that my web hosting plan was running out of bandwidth I asked them for more bandwidth but they are suggesting me to go for another hosting plan. They will not provide or I can't purchase more bandwidth for that particular plan.
This not the only company i an struggling. Before that i had very experience with bigrock, godaddy and especially hostingraja, this company is a cheat company.
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The hosting companies you had been with are not considered to be the best hosting providers in the market. From the list of providers I believe you were focusing on a data center in India? Even if that is the case, there are good providers out there. Also considering a server in US or the EU will not hurt you much.

What you have to do is to understand that actual amount of bandwidth your website needed and ensure that the amount of bandwidth consumed is by actual users. If yes, then you should search for a reputable (not famous) hosting provider with a hosting packages which stays within your requirement.

If the bandwidth requirement is above what shared hosting offers, then consider to go for a VPS as this would ensure that your website will run smoothly. I believe that you are not tied up to budget.
 
cheapdedicated said:
Considering all the hosts he mentions have an unlimited plan that is below $5 you still think that budget isnt an issue to him? I think that its actually his number one factor.
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When virtually 100% of web sites suitable for a shared hosting environment is less than 3GB, what's the budgetary and technical difference between an unlimited plan that is less than $5 and a 3 GB plan that is less than $5.00? If you would agree that $5.00 is a decent and justifiable price for a 3 GB plan, then why wouldn't it also be so for an unlimited plan?

The hypocrisy and and contradictions of the anti-unlimited crowd keeps rolling on!
 
What actually meant by unmetered band width does it mean use as you need but when it cross limits of physical server it stops working
 
Collabora said:
When virtually 100% of web sites suitable for a shared hosting environment is less than 3GB, what's the budgetary and technical difference between an unlimited plan that is less than $5 and a 3 GB plan that is less than $5.00? If you would agree that $5.00 is a decent and justifiable price for a 3 GB plan, then why wouldn't it also be so for an unlimited plan?

The hypocrisy and and contradictions of the anti-unlimited crowd keeps rolling on!
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Out of respect for you, I stopped arguing with you over unlimited plans. You are rooted in the "unlimited crusade" that you wouldn't appreciate anything limited and I respect your position 100%. I have clients who have websites that run on just 200MB but the same clients have since grown to 45GB in email space. And that advises me on how to handle that client than another who uses 2GB email space.
 
rakesh_88 said:
What actually meant by unmetered band width does it mean use as you need but when it cross limits of physical server it stops working
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Normally a host will say have a flat rate of 100 Mbit/s port that serves a particular server (bandwidth). Unlimited then would normally mean you can use anything you need that is possible on that port SUBJECT to the provider's fair usage policy.
 
cheapdedicated said:
Out of respect for you, I stopped arguing with you over unlimited plans. You are rooted in the "unlimited crusade"....
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What you call a "crusade" is merely a series of corrections to your (and others') never-ending mis-characterizations of unlimited hosting plans.

It didn't take long for you to post another misleading characterization. Here it is with my response.

cheapdedicated said:
...Unlimited [bandwidth] then would...mean [usage is] SUBJECT to the provider's fair usage policy.
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As it is for limited bandwidth plans! As a matter of fact the policy is the same in both cases. This is just another attempt by you to knock unlimited plans by implying that unlimited bandwidth has "special" policies that limited bandwidth usage does not. It would have been more honest to say: "just as in plans with limited bandwidth, plans with unlimited bandwidth....etc.

Are you on some sort of anti-unlimited crusade? Do you always have to bad-mouth another host's plans to sell your own?
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I often wondered how hosting companies can get away with the whole "unlimited" bandwidth guarantee when most web savvy people know this is just not true. I guess it's mainly people who don't know much about shared hosting that see that guarantee and feel all warm and fuzzy inside!
 
If it says unlimited the best thing is to read their TOS. Mostly all hosting companies will mention limit in their TOS.
 
Collabora said:
As it is for limited bandwidth plans! As a matter of fact the policy is the same in both cases. This is just another attempt by you to knock unlimited plans by implying that unlimited bandwidth has "special" policies that limited bandwidth usage does not. It would have been more honest to say: "just as in plans with limited bandwidth, plans with unlimited bandwidth....etc.

Are you on some sort of anti-unlimited crusade? Do you always have to bad-mouth another host's plans to sell your own?
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First someone wanted to understand the concept of unlimited bandwidth not comparing limited and unlimited.

It appears that you find it as a personal attack every time someone mentions unlimited. No one is witch-hunting unlimited hosts. We are just stating what it is. And the only reason we do is because quite wrongly some clients take it to mean infinite NOT because anyone faults the providers.

If you notice We also offer certain resources "unlimited" but we should be willing to discuss the context under which they are offered "unlimited". If bandwidth is unlimited surely its within a particular context and that is what someone needed and I just offered just that explanation without a mention of anyone.

I dont think its a matter of anyone knocking off anything by just stating the context of the unlimited resource. When you explain the context of a limited plan its not about the company I work for its an explanation of how that technology works and I shouldnt find it an attack on Limited hosts.
 
iHostiGo said:
If it says unlimited the best thing is to read their TOS.
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This is also true of limited hosts. As a matter of fact, if one reads both types, one will find they are the same. That is because the TOS is meant to help maintain a healthy shared hosting envirionment. An unlimited hosting plan in the context of a shared hosting environment has the same issues as the limited plan and both require the same types of limits that are found outside their respective hosting plans.

Many hosts here (and sadly that includes staff), due to ignorance or FUD marketing, attempt to convince the reader/customer that when a host uses the term "unlimited" the host is applying it to resources that are not in the unlimited hosting plan -- those other resources that we typically find in the TOS -- or to the actual hardware. In reality "unlimited" in a shared hosting context refers to a style of quota management. Its the quota found in the hosting plan that is unlimited -- nothing else.

One problem with this industry, as this board has demonstrated on countless occasions, is that there really are hosts out there that don't know the difference between an unlimited hosting plan and "unlimited hardware" and will equate or conflate the two in their anti-unlimited diatribes. They don't know that the unlimited hosting plan TOS is the same as the TOS they force their own customers to follow. Why is it that the limited host has the same TOS as the unlimited host if the limited hosting plans solves an alleged problem in unlimited hosting plans?

They don't know because they are too busy copying each other. These are the real hosts one must avoid.
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rakesh_88 said:
What actually meant by unmetered band width does it mean use as you need but when it cross limits of physical server it stops working
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You have the wrong idea of "unmetered bandwidth." Unmetered bw means the price you pay each month does not depend on the amount of data sent to and from your server during the month. Think of it like a Taxi meter. When the meter is off, your ride is unmetered and the fare will be the same no matter how far you go.

Contrary to the statement of others, this does not necessarily mean "unlimited" because the amount of traffic transferred can be limited by reducing the speed of data transfer -- and that speed can be changing constantly. In the taxi above, the distance you will travel depends on the speed of the taxi. Thus if you have to be someplace 50 miles away in 1 hour, an unmetered taxi traveling less than 50 mph will fail you.

In general, unmetered bandwidth will always be slower than metered bandwidth. This is usually ok for a shared web site, but when it comes to VPS and Dedicated servers always ask the provider for the speed of the unmetered bandwidth

Due to the confusion among providers, when talking about bandwidth its always a good idea to remember the following. Strictly speaking:

(1) Bandwidth is the speed at which data is transferred (usually measured in Megabits per second - Mbps)
(2) Data Transfer is usually measured in GB and is the volume of data passed between you and the public. Its sometimes called "traffic."
(3) The term "unmetered" makes sense only when applied to bandwidth. It has absolutely no application to other hosting resources such as disk space. Many web hosts, in an attempt to avoid the negative mis-characterizations of unlimited disk space, will refer to it instead as "unmetered disk space." As far as I know there is no hosting plan that utilizes metered disk space in the first place.
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LampNetworks said:
To read, or not to read... the terms and conditions: PayPal agreement is longer than Hamlet, while iTunes beats Macbeth
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ement-longer-Hamlet-iTunes-beats-Macbeth.html

To expect people to wade through pages of legal jargon, then tick a box to say they have read and understood the small print is unreasonable.
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On top of that, if you don't agree with some of the terms (even one), what is really the option? They aren't going to write custom terms for you, so you are forced to use the service regardless, if your clients want it.
 
Artashes said:
On top of that, if you don't agree with some of the terms (even one), what is really the option? They aren't going to write custom terms for you...
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Additionally, the terms (TOS and AUP) are written for the host's protection more than the customer's.
 
Artashes said:
On top of that, if you don't agree with some of the terms (even one), what is really the option? They aren't going to write custom terms for you, so you are forced to use the service regardless, if your clients want it.
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if you don't like the terms they you don't use the service, but just because something is written in TOS/Terms and Conditions it does not make it legal.

Trading and statutory policies/terms/acts will always over ride what any company writes in their TOS.

I have used the law many times to fight companies who think because something is in their terms then its legal.

I have our TOS checked by Trading Standards in the UK on a regular basis to make sure they comply with current legislation. This has been the same since i stated as i knew the head of our local office on a personal level and he was the one who offered to have one of his staff to have a quick look over the and when they come back it was like i had to do a full rewrite with the amount of points to be added, removed and amended, now they check these at least once a year and if i have to add anything i will also asked them to see if it can be added. so i know my TOS are current and legal
 
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