Hosting 2 domains on one package.

Another question:

If I decide to try out a host and it doesn’t work out, there is nothing they can do with my site names since I have them registered elsewhere, right? I just cancel them and move on, right? What is the best option for payment also?

Like between pay pal and master card debit card? I don’t own an actual credit card right now, will eventually get one again since they have better protection for yourself, but am just coming back from a serious accident and have yet to re-establish my credit. I would want to be sure I could easily stop any reoccurring billing to me should I need to cancel out a web host if they turned out to not be any good.

Also should I request any documentation other than receipts showing my ownership of my domains? I registered them with 1&1.

Thanks again everyone.
 
As long as you have your domains registered elsewhere, and you change the nameservers for your domain to another host or parking page panel, there is nothing that your host can do. You might consider 3rd party DNS, so that you can leave your nameservers set to the third party and simply change your domain A/MX records to your new host. This way you can change with minimum downtime. Otherwise, it will take several hours to a few days for nameserver changes to take effect.

Send me a PM if you want more information.
 
At what point is a hosting provider overselling? Its obvious when they try to offer 15,000GB bandwidth for $6.96 a month (thats why I am confused that some people rated LunarPages highly on here, when they are clearly overselling, maybe not before, but are now).

But some offer 50GB while others offer 300GB of bandwidth for $4.95 a month on shared hosting. Other features differ somewhat on various packages, but when should I be concerned someone is offering more than you will ever actually get to use.
 
eBandit said:
At what point is a hosting provider overselling? Its obvious when they try to offer 15,000GB bandwidth for $6.96 a month (thats why I am confused that some people rated LunarPages highly on here, when they are clearly overselling, maybe not before, but are now).

But some offer 50GB while others offer 300GB of bandwidth for $4.95 a month on shared hosting. Other features differ somewhat on various packages, but when should I be concerned someone is offering more than you will ever actually get to use.
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I saw an offer on this forum where one individual stated that the previous poster was obviously overselling. That individual posted their offer, which was less than $1 USD different. So who knows.

Overselling can be defined as selling 200Gb of storage when the server has only a 100Gb hard drive. It could also be defined as selling more processor than is available on the machine. The last is more difficult to define, but you could think of it as having so many accounts that response is always slow.

There are many dedicated servers out there that run around $150 per month for 120Gb hard drive, dual processor and 2000 Gb of bandwidth. If you allocate 20 Gb to the OS, you're left with 100Gb to sell. So cost for 1Gb is $1.50 and bandwidth is $0.075 per Gb. If you allocate a proportional share of bandwidth to each account, 20 Gb would be another $1.50. As you can see the host's cost for 1Gb storage and 20 Gb of bandwidth is $3.00 per month.

From that base amount, you could say that the server has a 200Gb hard drive, and it's a bit more inexpensive, but still $2.25 per month.

So there is your 'yard stick' that you can use to determine which companies are overselling.

Overselling to some degree makes business sense, due to the fact that most clients will not use all of their storage or bandwidth. However, many hosts have taken it beyond that point.
 
The poster was referring to bandwidth not disk space. Most hosts use rather large drives now, I don't know of many hosts who still purchase servers with 120GB hard drives.

Personally less than 1TB now is too little.
 
HL-James said:
The poster was referring to bandwidth not disk space. Most hosts use rather large drives now, I don't know of many hosts who still purchase servers with 120GB hard drives.

Personally less than 1TB now is too little.
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I believe I covered bandwidth as well. The math is the same.

I used 2 Tb of bandwidth for my example, so that's covered.

Even if you double the storage and make it 400 Gb, you must expect the price to increase. So in the end, you're still paying ~$1.75 per Gb, yet a host can offer 10Gb of storage with 200Gb of bandwidth for $4.95 per month. If you strictly look at bandwidth and disregard storage, then the price of 2Tb of bandwidth being $150 per month, 200Gb would cost the host $15 per month. That host must oversell by 300% just to pay the server bill.



If you're saying that 1Tb of storage is too little, I'd say it's a bit too much. You can build a server that has one dozen Tb, that doesn't mean that it's capable of working at a reasonable load if you have a large number of domains that it serves.
 
HL-James said:
You are assuming that they are paying $150 for 2TB of bandwidth.
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You are correct. In order to provide an example some assumptions must be made. I don't think that I'm too far off though. However, even if the host was paying $75 USD for a quad processor server with 8 Gb of RAM and 1 Tb of storage, if they are allocated 2Tb of bandwidth it would still be necessary to oversell by 150%.

Of course you could declare that the host is given more than 2Tb of bandwidth, maybe an unlimited amount. You could even say that they're paying less than $75 a month for all of the specifications mentioned. At some point you have to make reasonable assumptions. No reputable data center or dedicated provider is going to lease you a server with those specifications for $75 a month.

Just for grins, let's go with 4000Gb of bandwidth at a price of $75; a host would be able to create 20 accounts and if we us the same $4.95 per month, that server would generate $99 per month. We now have a profit of $24, but wait, we have not considered any overhead such as server administration. Even with ridiculous assumptions, it's still obvious that offering 200 Gb of bandwidth for $4.95 per month, means the host is overselling. You simply cannot get around that fact.

Overselling isn't necessarily a bad business practice. In order to be competitive in any business it's necessary to ensure that you maximize your resources. If, at the end of every month, you have a surplus of bandwidth, then it only makes sense to sell more the next month. The problem is that many hosts will simply add more storage or pay for more bandwidth, versus leasing another server because it's more profitable. At some point, there is simply not enough Mbps or processor to handle the load effectively and the machine slows to a crawl.
 
Hosting 2 domains on one package

Hosting two domains or websites within one account is very much possible. I host two of my domains within the same account and it works fine. The control panel allows me manage both of them easily. Both domains are unique and can be accessed uniquely without redirects.

For multiple websites or domains, one could look into reseller hosting where each account is created with its own control panel and one could easily create email accounts, change their password, etc.
 
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