WOW I was about to add YAHOO on my Instant Messenger

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There is a good chance it may just not be possible, see this article today:

Yahoo New

Yahoo on Wednesday began blocking Cerulean Studios' Trillian software from communicating with its instant messaging service in its latest step to fence its popular client from third-party integrators. Beginning at about 6 p.m. Wednesday, Yahoo changed its instant messaging language to prevent third-party services, such as Trillian, from accessing its service. Like previous statements, the company said the block is meant as a pre-emptive measure against spammers from its Yahoo Messenger service.

"Spammers are being aided by entities that are abusing our systems, where they effortlessly gain knowledge of pathways and back-alley access to send spam," Yahoo spokeswoman Mary Osako said.

A Trillian spokesperson did not immediately return an e-mail seeking comment.

Trillian software essentially folds in multiple IM clients under one interface. Although IM services from Yahoo, America Online and MSN cannot directly communicate, Trillian allows a user to chat with their buddies on all three systems under a common look and feel.

Yahoo's actions against Trillian are not new. The company has blocked Trillian in the past, including a handful of times last fall. Cerulean countered by implementing a work-around that soon restored access to Yahoo Messenger. Microsoft in October also shut out Trillian, saying it would have to strike an access agreement with the software giant to gain access to its users.

This time, however, Yahoo said it will continue changing its protocols to prevent clients such as Trillian from finding new ways to incorporate Yahoo. Again, the measure was cited by Yahoo as a way to prevent IM spam.

"By making frequent protocol changes, it is our expectation that spammers will be blocked from abusing our system to spam our users," Osako said.

IM spam, commonly referred to as "spim," has been flagged by experts as a growing problem. However, experts have also written off spim as a far cry from e-mail spam, which has caused enormous headaches for consumers and businesses alike.

Market researcher The Yankee Group in April said that about 5 percent to 8 percent of all IM sent in corporations is spim. The study added that the percentage is unlikely to increase in the next year despite expected growth in new corporate IM users.

IM is different from e-mail in that users can block strangers from communicating with them. Many IM clients have also added screening processes such as allowing communication only with people who appear on one's buddy list.

Regardless of whether IM spam is a growing and gathering problem, Yahoo's actions against Trillian illustrate the Web giant's efforts to further wall-off its proprietary IM network. The Big Three equivalent for Internet services have all watched their IM software proliferate thanks to their closed-door environments. Consumers must download multiple clients to chat with buddies in different IM services.

Blocking efforts such as Yahoo's have been controversial in the past. In 1999, when Microsoft launched MSN Messenger, the software allowed users to communicate directly with AOL Instant Messenger users. AOL, then the largest IM network, blocked MSN. The two companies proceeded to play a game of cat and mouse for months, until MSN finally said it would no longer access AOL to protect customer "security."

But when AOL acquired Time Warner in 2000, regulatory bodies and competitors brought back the MSN Messenger block as further evidence of the online giant's unfair practices. AOL eventually accepted regulatory provisions to rein in its IM business to gain approval of the merger.
 
I think yahoo did this before and trillian released a new dll file for yahoo which fixed it.
I know they released a new file, but I am not 100% sure it was for this, I think so anyway.

You should read up on that.
There is likely going to be someone that will find a way around this anyway, most things have a backdoor or way to get past the "protection".

Are you using the same protocol as trillian?
 
Stephen said:
I think yahoo did this before and trillian released a new dll file for yahoo which fixed it.
I know they released a new file, but I am not 100% sure it was for this, I think so anyway.

You should read up on that.
There is likely going to be someone that will find a way around this anyway, most things have a backdoor or way to get past the "protection".

Are you using the same protocol as trillian?

Can you give me a link to find out more about this b/c we about to do it on my IM but if yahoo is going to stop all 3rd party IM then it will be a waste of money.
 
Stephen said:
I think yahoo did this before and trillian released a new dll file for yahoo which fixed it.
I know they released a new file, but I am not 100% sure it was for this, I think so anyway.

You should read up on that.
There is likely going to be someone that will find a way around this anyway, most things have a backdoor or way to get past the "protection".

Are you using the same protocol as trillian?

That's correct stephen, they did this on v12, and was fixed on .13 :p
 
Wow.

Although I don't use Trillian, I use Gaim and presume it'll face the same problems Trillian is. Thankfully though I'm still able to use YIM under Gaim; however I wonder for how much longer. I've no doubt that people at Gaim and Trillian will create a patch for this; they've done it in the past and doubt this will stop them.

I think it's really shocking that these large corporations won't allow things like Trillian and Gaim to connect to their networks. I mean, people don't pay for AIM, YIM, MSN or ICQ yet they keep trying to block people from using Trillian and Gaim. What I find strange though is how they never try and block Lycos Messenger; I may have to switch to that.
 
I have stopped using Trillian now, even though I did pay for the pro version last year, I don't want the hassle of keep having to download trillian patches every few months to get it to work.
 
I think trillian updates itself rwa, I know it used to and I remember I got the download for yahoo automatically.

I think it's really shocking that these large corporations won't allow things like Trillian and Gaim to connect to their networks. I mean, people don't pay for AIM, YIM, MSN or ICQ yet they keep trying to block people from using Trillian and Gaim

I don't think it us just because they want to stop the programs using the network, I think it is because when a 3rd party program can use a network, it can find a lot of backdoors, for spamming for example.

It is very easy to create a program that will spam thousands of users on a network if you are using your own code to connect to it.
Although the most common programs like trillian don't have anything for that, it can still be done very easily.
 
Jose, I would just wait and add it later, you may as well since yahoo is one of the most popular messengers.
I'm sure there will be a patch coming out soon. I didn't know your company coded that program by the way, I thought it was something companies could buy then put their logo/text on for branding.

How are you connecting to the networks at the minute? What is it coded in? You are likely to have something that will work pretty soon if it is similar to the large programs like trillian.
 
Just a bunch of crap... yahoo messanger sucks it is filled with adds and it is annoying. Trillian is by far a great piece of software.
 
it is filled with adds and it is annoying

That is down to a lot of people using third party programs to spam, exactly the reason why Yahoo is trying to stop other programs using their network ;)
 
RobAPI said:
Jose, I would just wait and add it later, you may as well since yahoo is one of the most popular messengers.
I'm sure there will be a patch coming out soon. I didn't know your company coded that program by the way, I thought it was something companies could buy then put their logo/text on for branding.

How are you connecting to the networks at the minute? What is it coded in? You are likely to have something that will work pretty soon if it is similar to the large programs like trillian.

Yes that what am going to do wait until yahoo give me a approve back I was on the phone with him today. They tell me first they try to deal with Trillian.
 
Anjay said:
Wow.

Although I don't use Trillian, I use Gaim and presume it'll face the same problems Trillian is. Thankfully though I'm still able to use YIM under Gaim; however I wonder for how much longer. I've no doubt that people at Gaim and Trillian will create a patch for this; they've done it in the past and doubt this will stop them.

I think it's really shocking that these large corporations won't allow things like Trillian and Gaim to connect to their networks. I mean, people don't pay for AIM, YIM, MSN or ICQ yet they keep trying to block people from using Trillian and Gaim. What I find strange though is how they never try and block Lycos Messenger; I may have to switch to that.


I use Gaim as well :clap:
 
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