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Do you think that shared web hosting providers must increase transfer and space quotas to enormous numbers that no one uses? offering 20 GB - 50 GB transfer per month is reasonable. But claiming you offer anyone 500 GB per month transfer is like offering cruise to the moon.

It is obvious that most web sites can not take advantage of offers like those! So what do you think hosts should do. To offer something that no one will use or to focus on different things like value-added services.
 
It is obvious that most web sites can not take advantage of offers like those!
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That is true, especially given the clauses in some Terms of Service documents. However, people have reported being able to use way more than 500GB of data transfer with some hosts, admittedly for file serving purposes, not with forums.

to offer something that no one will use or to focus on different things like value-added services.
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There will always be budget hosting market. It's up to each host to go for it or not. For some hosts it's too late, as they're already positioned as cheap providers, with a customer base that's always attracted to the "best deal". Switching to higher end hosting would result in a huge loss. They could start a new brand though. :)
 
MasterNeeds said:
Do you think that shared web hosting providers must increase transfer and space quotas to enormous numbers that no one uses? offering 20 GB - 50 GB transfer per month is reasonable. But claiming you offer anyone 500 GB per month transfer is like offering cruise to the moon.

It is obvious that most web sites can not take advantage of offers like those! So what do you think hosts should do. To offer something that no one will use or to focus on different things like value-added services.
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My reseller can very easily supply me that without making me upgrade to a dedicated server.

Also, it all depends on who you advertise to, to choose whether to go for special deals or advertise enormous plans like that.
 
Well if they "say" they can offer you that much and their TOS has no rules around it. Then I don't see how it's a bad decision, of course they are opening up a HUGE liability for themselves for offering such a large sum of resources. I also can't see how someone could use that much amount of resources.. or atleast the chances of someone using that much is VERY low in my opinion.
 
My reseller can very easily supply me that without making me upgrade to a dedicated server.

Also, it all depends on who you advertise to, to choose whether to go for special deals or advertise enormous plans like that.

-Fully Agreed.
 
It all depends on some many factors - we are growing quickly these days and we are not a budget host - but offer fair plans and deliver as best we can. - we have a track record of 99.999% uptime over the last 3 1/2 years. - This includes our Maintenance windows, and a server cut overs. We try to show that we are a business grade host and worth the extra money - we try to show that with a website not built from a template, we offer various products and services and try to show that after you select us you wont need to go else where. --

So I would say focus on value added services and solutions than offering disk space and bandwidth that wont be used
 
Overselling occurs only in the sphere of shared hosting, the companies who focus on dedicated hosting like razorservers.com successfully avoid in their practice, and I don't think they are losing any profit.
 
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It is obvious they are overselling in an attempt to attract clients. However no hosting company would be able to fullfill the space requirements or bandwidth requirements they are offering. Overselling is a cheap ploy for desperate companies.
 
The biggest debate of the last 2 years has been overselling. Is it right or wrong...ethical or morally wrong... The fact is overselling isnt wrong in some eyes and totally absurd in others. It depends on your (business) ethics, morals and support barriers placed - what if the user one day is ready to use alot of bandwidth or storage - will you be able to accomodate him..or turn him off....as a business only you can decide what's right and wrong and let the consumer use his RIGHT TO CHOOSE :)

On a personal note ... I dont think highly of overselling, but thats just my opinion.
 
Nowadays, most hosting companies oversold disk space and bandwidth heavily. It's hard to say whether it is right or not. At least, overselling works on many business, e.g. airline booking, hotel, etc..

Besides disk space and bandwidth, please take a look at their CPU limit and memory limit, and you may find what's the bottleneck is.
 
They don't have to bump their offering. Especially when plans cost for less than $10/month. It is better web hosts to focus on quality innovations.
 
Unfortunately there are too many hosts that do this.

Many companies find it hard to cover costs so they resort to over selling. Earlier today I was on a hosting directory site and 1 of the supposed top hosts offered 1,000,000 MB space for $4.44 a month. This is of course a ridiculous claim.

Hosts that work on an un-metered or unlimited model (including those with ridiculously high specs) work on the knowledge that the vast majority of people never use or get anywhere near their maximum allocation. If you do plan on going with a host that has such claims ensure you read their terms of service and acceptable use policies to the letter.

Even if there is nothing in the tos or aup ensure you maintain an upto date backup in the likely event that the plug is pulled.
 
MasterNeeds said:
Do you think that shared web hosting providers must increase transfer and space quotas to enormous numbers that no one uses? offering 20 GB - 50 GB transfer per month is reasonable. But claiming you offer anyone 500 GB per month transfer is like offering cruise to the moon.

It is obvious that most web sites can not take advantage of offers like those! So what do you think hosts should do. To offer something that no one will use or to focus on different things like value-added services.
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When you see offers like 200Gb space and 2000GB bandwidth don't kid yourself read the the TOS, most will indicate that you cannot use over X% of server resources or something else and if your site is using that much space and pushing that much bandwidth you should be on a dedicated server, over selling at its best!

What should hosts offer? Well a decent host should focus on quality of service and reliability and not try to compete with all the "terabyte" hosts out there because offering plans that have 'everything' will only attract customers who expect everything for the couple of dollars they pay each month ;)

Value adds are great and really focus your plans to include what each different market really needs. Reseller hosting plans can include billing systems, domain names, templates and other things a reseller could find useful.
 
Overselling is never good,you get slower servers. You get what you pay for and you should use a company that owns their own servers and does not oversell. Your speed will be much faster and stable.
 
I just got off the phone with a sales rep at HostGator.
I told him that I run a site that has a lot of files available for download and some as large as 300 MB. My average bandwidth currently runs around 200 GB a month with my present hosting company.
HostGator advertises 6,000 GB bandwidth transfer a month for shared hosting but the sales rep told me that I would most likely have my site shut down if someone were to try and download a 300 MB file and he said I would need a dedicated server.

Let's see - advertising 6,000 GB of bandwidth transfer a month but 300 MB of transfer would get my site shut down, now that is over-selling.
 
I'm having trouble believing that a single 300 MB simple file, direct download would create problems, on any server. The sales representative might have been worried about your eventual peak usage/simultaneous downloads.
 
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