Warez Hosting

Harry

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I'm wondering if people have used hosting that provides resources for Warez sites, or if your a host yourself? I remember back a year ago,I caught one of my clients hosting warez on his account. I suspended it and later he said he wouldn't remove the content. So I had to terminate his account.

Now, had this happen on a offshore server, I assume the matter could have changed. Anyone here also run a offshore server?

I'm just curious, as I see many people signing up for hosting, they have a good record and then out of nowhere, you get an email saying "blah and so so, is hosting illegal material".
 
The decision on whether or not to host illegal content is a moral one.
Anyone who chooses to lease an offshore server with the sole intention of allowing people to host illegal content has a very low moral standard in my opinion.

Every host will have to deal with warez and illegal content issues from time to time. It's part of the business.
How you will be judged is how you deal with these issues.
 
I don't even allow people to link to warez, much less host it on my servers.

I just terminated an account two days ago for constructing a forum that solely linked to Warez on Rapid Share. I was expecting a fight over the difference between 'linking' and 'providing', but he just moved his domain and left without even a return email.
 
Blue said:
The decision on whether or not to host illegal content is a moral one.
Anyone who chooses to lease an offshore server with the sole intention of allowing people to host illegal content has a very low moral standard in my opinion.

Every host will have to deal with warez and illegal content issues from time to time. It's part of the business.
How you will be judged is how you deal with these issues.
Well said. have access to Russian servers but I do not promote them because the majority of people that bought them hosted warez. Even though they were not illegal in Russia I terminated everyone that I found hosting warez. After that experience I do not offer the Russian servers anymore. If some one came to me with good reason they needed one I would get it, but they are not publicly available.
 
As Blue said, it's all pretty much a moral issue. In our case, hosting those who want only to link to warez is not an option. It's not necessarily illegal to do it, but in our book contributing to something that is illegal is not what we want to do.
 
Actually, linking to material that is illegal is Also Illegal. It is the same as driving someone to a bank knowing full well they intend to rob it.

Software is the property of the creator. The fee to use it gets raised for the rest of us, every time some lamo dowloads and illegal hacked/cracked copy.

Also, having an off shore server makes it no less illegal. If you have a US based company, and you have a server off shore, they can now nail you to the wall. There is no good reason an honest host would consider using off shore servers to host this kind of content. It hurts us all in the pocket book.

As far as it being a moral issue... maybe. But it is defanately a legal issue. I would rather be called a fool, by someone attempting to promote warez, than being a fool and getting busted by the law.

Just my 2 cents.

Tim L
 
Linking to Software is Illegal, but linking to video isn't right?
I guess it isn't, because over here (EU) making a copy of software is illegal, but copying a movie/cd or whatever "not lucrative" (private/public without charging) is legal.

And my second point, how about linking to a video that has not been licenced in the country of the host? (i.e. Japanes anime, subbed by fansub).

Also I'm looking for a host that allows hosting a forum with links to copyright video.
 
I always find these threads curious. They're always filled with people stating what is legal and what is illegal. Laws are made by governments and governments are territorial. Thus, laws are territorial. There are no correct blanket statements like "such and such is illegal". Something can only be legal or illegal within the confines of the territory that defines those laws.

Therefore, whether hosting warez is legal or not depends on who is doing it and where they are doing it. A territorial agnostic forum like this one is not the place to get legal advice. Consult someone who knows the laws in your country or the country you are considering doing business in.

I've already made my anti-warez feelings and policies clear earlier on in this thread so there's no need to take this post as an endorsement of hosting or linking to warez. Just some common sense.
 
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If it were me I would just ignore what my client is doing. I would just take notice when I receive a complaint from my host about a domain on my server. :smash:
 
Xpindia.Com said:
If it were me I would just ignore what my client is doing. I would just take notice when I receive a complaint from my host about a domain on my server. :smash:
Well that is something that even i prefer to do.
Of course my TOS say that site must not be hosting warez and must not use nulled scripts but at times you do come across someone or the other who starts a warez site or a forum.
You cannot curb this right away like hostingpuppy did all the time.
Even i do not take any action till the time i don't receive a complaint against them.
 
So in other words you are saying you have no ethics and your TOS is worthless.

Well done. You are basically saying that you are what is wrong with the hosting industry today. Too many kiddies who don't give a damn about ethics or violations of the LAW.
 
ashish1987 said:
Well that is something that even i prefer to do.
Of course my TOS say that site must not be hosting warez and must not use nulled scripts but at times you do come across someone or the other who starts a warez site or a forum.
You cannot curb this right away like hostingpuppy did all the time.
Even i do not take any action till the time i don't receive a complaint against them.

What your doing is setting a bad precedent in the industry. If your terms of service says they can't then why allow them? If you have a strict Datacenter and they catch you allowing someone to host it, and they see its in your TOS you can get in a lot of trouble.

If your not going to follow your TOS, then why have one?
 
ashish1987 said:
Well that is something that even i prefer to do.
Of course my TOS say that site must not be hosting warez and must not use nulled scripts but at times you do come across someone or the other who starts a warez site or a forum.
You cannot curb this right away like hostingpuppy did all the time.
Even i do not take any action till the time i don't receive a complaint against them.
In some ways I see why you would want to go through that way. Personally I don't know. I mean, I disapprove the use of pirated scripts however, I also value the customer. In the end though, the customer is breaking the law, so your better off warning them or suspending their account. Usually I give a fair warning and a time deadline for the content to be removed. If it hasn't been removed then the account goes to suspention/deletion mode.

Also if you delete warez users off your server, it will basically prevent less and less warez users to take on your hosting. In the long term that's great, since GOOD valued customers would want your services. Now you won't have to worry too much about having warez users, since they all will avoid your services knowing you'll delete their account.
 
USA laws and off-shore laws are completely different, i allow linking because of the country of my servers, but i would never allow hosting of files, and if i ever caught someone doing it i would permanently terminate the account without another blink,

That being said, if i ever got any "removal requests" i would forward them to the customer, if they did not respond within 24 hours i would terminate the account and pass on details to the other party
 
This is bad policy if someone is found to be breaking your terms of service if reported or NOT they should have there accounts suspended right away over looking things like this will only cause you problems in the long run....
 
Can't say I have. I know how hard it is to run a business so why would I, or allow others to cheat businesses out of their money.
 
Warez is illegal by any and every country..its like allowing "internet-terrorism" (sorry if this offends anyone , but thats the feeling). How to deal with it is one thing, allowing clients to use hosting for warez is as good as allowing terrorists into your country.

I apologize if this offends anyone but this is the best meaning I take of this and our company (and me) are totally against the even notion or idea of supporting Warez Hosting whether it be link sharing or more.

REgards
 
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