Reselling and Resources

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AbbieRose

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If you are a webhost and offer reselling plans, how much of your resources do you permit each reselling account to use? Do you inform your resellers of how much they can use, so that they can accurately decide how big to make their packages?
 
Well it depends of a lot of factors. The main on is how much disk space / bandwidth do you have to use for reselling.

Do you inform your resellers of how much they can use, so that they can accurately decide how big to make their packages?
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Yes you would show them on your website the different packages you have for sale for the reseller and all the features that come along with it.
 
We are not here to micro manage.
What a reseller chooses to offer is up to them.
If they over extend that is unfortunate but it's not something we can control. It's the nature of the beast.

I can on the other hand prevent resellers from offering unlimited accounts. With cPanel you can ensure that only the allocated resources are offered.
 
Resellers do as they please with the resources given. If they go over, then that is their fault, and nothing we can do. Also, like Blue said, I can prevent resellers from offering Unlimited accounts. There is not such thing as unlimited accounts. The average cost per account I'd say is $1.00. So 10 accounts, is $10.00 a month. Also, as Blue said again, you can use cpanel to make sure they only use the allocated resources are offered.
 
I don't have a normal reseller account so I am unsure how this goes. The space that I get is in return for other services that I render for a company, it is my payment. Hence needing to ask.

Yes I agree that micromanaging isn't your job but if you don't at least give the reseller that info, they could unknowingly go over their resources without knowing. Just seems that it would make life easier.
 
Instead of doing a bulk-reseller plan, could you sell set plans at a discount (or a low rate, since you're obtaining the space via barter) and let your resellers mark up the packages to sell to their customers? Alternately, is there any way to find out how much your barter-partner would charge a paying customer for the resources you're getting? That would give you your baseline number from which to base your reseller plans.

Here's another question, and perhaps this is thinking a bit too far into the future: what happens if/when your current barter arrangement runs out? Will you have the option to buy the resources that you'll be making available to your resellers? Or will you and they suddenly be scrambling for a new home?

And, related: what if you get more resellers (and clients thereof) than you have resources for? Do you have any options to purchase additional disk space / bandwidth from your barter-partner, if you should ever need to do so?

(Apologies if these questions make no sense. I just got back from a lo-o-ong meeting.)
 
This depends from company to company not constant, normally if a client is given some amount of resources it can be taken that he may use 60% of the alloted resources
 
If a client exceeds their resources it is never a good thing.
I believe it's good practice to inform client's on their resource consumptions.
 
Lesli, thanks for the questions, you've given me food for thought. The work I'm doing is ongoing currently with a month's notice, so there should not in theory be a scramble, and yes there is the option for me to continue buying. But with the current economy I guess I should have a back up plan available.

Again there is option to buy more than I am getting now, though it is not currently a problem. I'm still debating changing the arrangement anyway since I'm returning home for good-not sure I want to be tied to US banking and taxes.
 
I'm still unclear on your setup. Here's what I think I get:

  • You have space and bandwidth on someone's server that you get as part of a barter deal.
  • You resell this space to resellers of your own.
  • And you're asking how to size those packages.
What puzzles me is that it sounds like you already have those resellers. So I don't get what you've sold them, because these things are usually specified. Are your resellers currently all free to use as much as they want?
 
Our company offer pretty big resource plans but we don't oversell our servers at all ;)

It's funny how all people are looking for big resource hosting but actually they use less then 1GB bw / month.

But we have clearly stated in TOS what is allowed and what not. ( we don't allow big cpu/ram using scripts... such as proxys/rapidleech/torrent_tracker.. )
 
Blue said:
We are not here to micro manage.
What a reseller chooses to offer is up to them.
If they over extend that is unfortunate but it's not something we can control. It's the nature of the beast.

I can on the other hand prevent resellers from offering unlimited accounts. With cPanel you can ensure that only the allocated resources are offered.
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This is 100% right, we arent here to tell you what to do and not to do, the site is HostingDiscussion where you talk about hosting not were we tell each other what to offer and what there packages should be
 
Yep. We are here to give advice and help you with your problems (relating to the forum categories). Helping you come up with plans, services, etc. would be helping the competition. Sorry if that comes off as rude, but that is how it is.
 
Sorry to be a jerk, Im just saying but yea, Charge by what you pay for your server and stuff like make a profit do it like so that then you make profit selliing them.

-Greg
 
IkY0294 said:
This is 100% right, we arent here to tell you what to do and not to do, the site is HostingDiscussion where you talk about hosting not were we tell each other what to offer and what there packages should be
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romes said:
Yep. We are here to give advice and help you with your problems (relating to the forum categories). Helping you come up with plans, services, etc. would be helping the competition. Sorry if that comes off as rude, but that is how it is.
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IkY0294 said:
Sorry to be a jerk, Im just saying but yea, Charge by what you pay for your server and stuff like make a profit do it like so that then you make profit selliing them.

-Greg
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That is NOT what Blue meant, and if anything, this forum is for providing this kind of feedback and support so that all of us are better off at the end of the day. If you didn't read and learn from someone else, you wouldn't know how to exist in this industry.

What Blue meant is that as a provider of reseller services he doesn't restrict or tells his resellers what to offer. Its up to them to decide. However, if they find themselves in an overselling position - well, that's something you can't control, and something they will have to deal with when the bills comes due.

Here it is once again:

Blue said:
We are not here to micro manage.
What a reseller chooses to offer is up to them.
If they over extend that is unfortunate but it's not something we can control. It's the nature of the beast.

I can on the other hand prevent resellers from offering unlimited accounts. With cPanel you can ensure that only the allocated resources are offered.
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romes said:
Helping you come up with plans, services, etc. would be helping the competition
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You really think they're going to take business from you? I'll help anyone who needs it.. Why? Because when I started out I had people bending over backwards to show me every inch of the business.. It's about giving back, because every success is usually owed to a mentor of sorts.

I don't look at it as competing at all. I offer what I offer, you offer what you offer.. Let the customer decide who's best for them.
 
siforek said:
You really think they're going to take business from you? I'll help anyone who needs it.. Why? Because when I started out I had people bending over backwards to show me every inch of the business.. It's about giving back, because every success is usually owed to a mentor of sorts.

I don't look at it as competing at all. I offer what I offer, you offer what you offer.. Let the customer decide who's best for them.
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I completely agree. There are plenty of prospects to go around. You'd be amazed at what comes back your way if you give without expecting reward.
 
Agree as well, have learned a lot from these communities where people have been so helpful in pointing in the right direction. From logo design, to plans, marketing, etc. If others have been helpful to me, then I am more then willing to try and help back the community. It's a win-win for everybody and also shows what kind of host you will be ;)
 
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