MySQL Governor

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sahostking

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Hi Guys,

Anyone try MySQL Governor from CloudLinux on Shared Hosting yet? Seems to have some good benefits but would appreciate everyone's opinion before I just go ahead and install it.

Thanks
 
I do believe it is still in beta. I would not put it on a production server just yet. I have been reading and CL is making progress with this.
 
We have been using it in production for awhile now and have not had any problems with it. Been working pretty close with CL and Igor lately and progress is being made. Now waiting for their new kernel release.
 
These resource limiting scripts sure are getting more popular as the hosting plans become more ridiculous. I am trying to talk my company's CEO to sell plans based on amount of traffic and resource usage expected as opposed to a million tb space and all that which they will never get to use.

And lets face it, hardly any shared hosting out there now can you run any decent traffic site on. There are inode limits, mysql limits, etc; Anything they can do to prevent the user from using what they paid for, its amazing. Also it is done to give the ability of the host to put thousands of accounts on a server that would normally not host that many.

I guess at least the VPS and Server management industries are getting bigger since so many users with over 30 or so users a day are being pushed into these.

No offense to any host, I know we all wanna prevent resource hogging but there are already ways to do this and still allow the user to burst when the rest of the server is not so busy.
 
felosi said:
These resource limiting scripts sure are getting more popular as the hosting plans become more ridiculous. I am trying to talk my company's CEO to sell plans based on amount of traffic and resource usage expected as opposed to a million tb space and all that which they will never get to use.

And lets face it, hardly any shared hosting out there now can you run any decent traffic site on. There are inode limits, mysql limits, etc; Anything they can do to prevent the user from using what they paid for, its amazing. Also it is done to give the ability of the host to put thousands of accounts on a server that would normally not host that many.

I guess at least the VPS and Server management industries are getting bigger since so many users with over 30 or so users a day are being pushed into these.

No offense to any host, I know we all wanna prevent resource hogging but there are already ways to do this and still allow the user to burst when the rest of the server is not so busy.
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Nice words, but I also think it's good to provide stability. And having a few customers take down a server or slow it down compared to many is still something I'd sacrifice. It really depends how you as a host feel about it and what you'd like to accomplish.

Also having VPS as an alternative at a good price for customers that hog a server or need far more resources than what a shared hosting package can provide is a good option for hosts to implement. This something I will be offering soon in my plan range.
 
felosi said:
And lets face it, hardly any shared hosting out there now can you run any decent traffic site on. There are inode limits, mysql limits, etc; Anything they can do to prevent the user from using what they paid for, its amazing.
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Huh? Customers pay for hosting plans. I've never seen a hosting plan offer what you claim is being denied. I am not even sure what it is that is being paid for that you say customer is not getting.
 
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Collabora said:
Huh? Customers pay for hosting plans. I've never seen a hosting plan offer what you claim is being denied. I am not even sure what it is that is being paid for that you say customer is not getting.
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Show me ANY hosting account you can truly use unlimited bandwidth, 1000 gb space, 10tb of traffic or any of these other crazy limits. Because lets face it, this is what the customer thinks they are getting. Sure hardly any will use it but what about the not so IT savvy guy the in a company who is ordered to go out and find a hosting plan with x amount of specs.

Before the 10th gb or even less is uploaded they will run into inode limits perhaps. After they start their campaign and get put on reddit or somewhere similar and get a burst of traffic they will surely be suspended.

My idea is to make hosting plans saying for this plan you get

x amount of traffic,
can upload x amount of files
can usr and burst x amount of cpu/ram.

We are actually reforming our plans from a recent acquisition we purchased to be like that. May be a successful test run, may be a fail. But would be worth putting little truth in advertising. It has gone too far the unregulated false promises going on in this industry for so long.

Plus I just dont have the heart to tell someone who paid for a super duper 100tb hosting plan that because of some little loophple that was listed no where on the plans or terms page that his site is suspended and must pay more money or get a server.

Does no one agree with me here that with the better processing power, ram, faster disks and cheaper bandwidths we can give customers MORE usage and still make 200-300% per server?

And of course there is a way to do this without having sites lag your server. If a site is breaking liberal limits and causing lag on the server they definitely need an upgrade, server or vps. Not if they just happen to break a super small limit that is unreasonable in the first place.
 
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I think a lot of clients are more savvy than you give them credit.

Sure, a lot of this is marketing, but marketing drives business and I for one don't think firms that offer unlimited plans are out to deny any services to their clients. You can argue ethics all day long, but what makes or breaks providers is the infrastructure they employ to support their plans profitably. That infrastructure includes equipment, personnel, business plans and above all - sound management.

Customer churn affects every provider. They couldn't be in this business long term if their services weren't stable. The bad providers get weeded out and the good providers survive another year. Look at how many have bit the dust in just the last couple of years - and many of them did not offer unlimited plans.
 
Ok guys some feedback on MySQL Governor. I installed it and tested it thoroughly. I had some weird issues though of sites stopping for awhile and then starting up again, Like hiccups. :)

I restarted mysql and it works. I'm sure I need to tweak it better but decided for now. Let me leave it.

Going to setup a proper staging environment to test it properly.
 
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