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is it possible that i buy a domain from netfirms for ,, 4.95 dollars and then i choose a free web hosting of other company.

i know that it can be done by changing the nameserver,,but my original question is that ,,netfirms is providing me domain for so cheep ,wont netfirms bound me to use his own webhosting so that they can make there profit from me ,,, ?

looking forward for ur sincere suggestions
 
Did you get a clear answer from netfirms that if you buy the so called cheap domain from them then you are bound to use their service or are you just assuming it??
 
Fad, think of Netfirms as one-stop shop for most common web hosting solutions new Internet users usually come across. They hope that if you buy a domain from them, you would also choose their hosting.

Not to mention that there is limitation to $4.95 pricing: "Pricing is $4.95 for first year. Domain will renew at $9.95 per year thereafter. Limit five $4.95 domain names per customer."

They will make the money on the next few years, plus if you buy hosting from them as well - they make the difference.

I can't recollect hearing a lot of bad reviews about Netfirms, so you might as well give them a chance - they are a good solution for very small sites (whether you want free or paid hosting).
 
thanx

thanx a lot artashes,,u alwayz give very detailed answers,,,,

and thanx to every budy else ,, who replied to my queries...

i m going ahead with netfirms ,, gonna buy a domain from them and then ,,, go ahead with a free web hosting ,, thanx every budy once again :)
 
You are welcome, fad. Don't forget to come back and share your experience with NetFirms.
 
I'm not sure I would try them out myself. I'm not sure how good their tech support is, but usually cheaper places doesn't exactly mean it's the best place.

I've used their hosting LONG ago and it wasn't too bad. However, I rather pay a few extra bucks and get a domain elsewhere.
 
Here is some information which most first time users or new users of a domain registrar need to know.

Many registrars offer domains for cheap and this drives in many customers.
Companies like Netfirms and other ICANN Accredited registrars get domains at much lesser base price than the price they sell them at. No one pays from their pocket, so when price seems cheap to you, it is more or less reduced profits the company is going for, with sole intention to have a customer and also in hope that the domain once registered will be kept in use subsequent years and most likely with them. So, little reduction in profit if increases volume of sale and gets them new customers, it is a good business tactic.

If a domain is put to good use, has a web site attached or is in use otherwise, chances are that it is going to be renewed the subsequent year. It may be transferred elsewhere but even then for 60 days custoemr stays with these companies and that is a good time to impress upon them with not just domain services but also expose them to wide array of other services offered through these companies. It is quite possible that customer who comes for domain services and is satisfied with same or sees other products, may purchase same.

Remember, many of the registrars, need a credit card for purchase or enroll you into paypal subscription.
Make hard note of this, because if you move domain to other place or sell the same, you MUST cancel credit card or paypal subscriptino entered into their records, otherwise it will AUTO-CHARGE you despite them not possessing the domain or you not being the owner of domain any more.
I have seen many people ignoring this and later fighting chargebacks or corresponding. So, just be careful any time you use credit card or enroll into subscriptions. Never ignore TOS, howsoever boring and long they may be.
 
Companies like Netfirms and other ICANN Accredited registrars get domains at much lesser base price than the price they sell them at. No one pays from their pocket
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Actually, they do lose money when selling .coms for $4.95.

The cost for the .com is $6 per Domain Name Year to the registry and .25 per year to ICANN.
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http://ask.metafilter.com/49208/Mater-of-our-own-domain-names

Whether they recoup that loss in subsequent years, is a matter of speculation. Their bet certainly is that they will though. :)
 
ldcdc said:
Actually, they do lose money when selling .coms for $4.95.


http://ask.metafilter.com/49208/Mater-of-our-own-domain-names

Whether they recoup that loss in subsequent years, is a matter of speculation. Their bet certainly is that they will though. :)
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What i understand of domain names and this industry is that ICANN has allotted different registeries (not registrars) like Verisign for .com and so on. ICANN charges $0.25/yr/domain registered/renewed/transferred.
ICANN is not bothered about anything more than placing the ceiling over domain prices. Registries like Verisign are free to decide the price for domain extensions they handle, just that the price can't cross ceiling decided upon by ICANN and it can not be lower than $0.25/yr/domain, the ICANN fee. If Verisign wants they can sell .com for $0.25 also in a way getting ICANN its fee and themselves saving nothing. Just an example and not practical. :)

Now as with registry, there are registrars. Like Enom or Directi which act as middle men or agents through which domain extensinos are registered. They offer extensions from different Registries. The price at which they get domain extensions is decided upon by the funds they deposit with the registry.

So, lets say Netfirms was to deposit assuming $100 thousand with Verisign, so base value of .com it gets from Verisin will be $4 and so on, if it deposits funds totune of $100thousand with .IN registry, it shall get .in domains at base slab of $6. If they were to despoit lesser funds, their base slab changes, so domain which was earlier priced to them at $4 by Verisign, shall now be priced at say $6 and soon. This is for all different domain registries they desposit funds with. So, price at which they get domain extensions from registries is decided by funds they despoit. It is called Total Receipts. What they get is basically provision to sale that many domains at price they wish to.

Now comes resellers. Like Registerfly was an year ago or many of those Directi resellers, similar price slab is passed on to them, so depending upon funds they despoit, they get discounted price BUT always over and above the price it costs to registrar.

Don't get confused. The hierarchy is :-

Registry <-- Registrar <-- Resellers <-- Sub-resellers

ICANN enters into agreement with Registries for domain extensions, like Internic or ernet is for .in, Verisign is for .com and so on.

Registrars approach diff. Registries and signup with them. If Registrars signs up with verisign only, then they can sell only .com and so on.

These registrars then have resellers and sub-resellers.

Registrars (level1) do not get domains for $6 (.com) always. If they deposit more funds, their base slab changes and thats how they get it cheap because volume sales is what they target and when they get it cheap, they are able to bring out greater discounts.

Registerfly last year became ICANN accredited and was independent registrar. Earlier it was reseller of Enom. And remember they started those $0.60 .info domains and so on. If we go by your assertion that domains are priced at say $4 for .info, then loss of $3.40 per .info domain and when millions got registered is some thing not reasonable. Also, remember .info aren't that valued either, so chances that people shall renew it is less, so the loss is going to be there more. Registerfly did not take a loss of $3.4/ .info registered then, otherwise what happened to them now, would have happened atleast eight months ago with company turning bankrupt and what more. Just to remind you, Directi is also offering .info for $0.99/first year, so is GoDaddy ($1.25 i guess). These companies do not take losses. If it is less than a cent, they could just offer it free and say charge $0.99 for second year, atleast they would have custoemr hooked on for two years, but it is not how things work.

They use promos from registries, increase their deposits to get better slabs and then roll out the schemes and offers to general public.

Thats what i had to share as far as cheap domains is concerned.
 
Well there are a few resellers now, that have accounts which need no deposit. I just got a reseller account and I don't have to deposit any money in to use it. I basically pay the same low fee per a domain name.

It really depends on the company and there are so many upper end registars out there these days.
 
Cal813 said:
Well there are a few resellers now, that have accounts which need no deposit. I just got a reseller account and I don't have to deposit any money in to use it. I basically pay the same low fee per a domain name.

It really depends on the company and there are so many upper end registars out there these days.
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Deposit is used towards letting people buy domains from you unless ofcourse you want to manually approve each sale and pay for it then or aren't opening up to the market.

Say if you deposit $100, then you or anyone visiting your reseller site can have domains worth $100 where cost price of domain is what it costs you from the registrar/reseller and selling price is what people pay you to get the domain. Difference is your rpofit. People send you money, which gets credited into your account and lets the buyer get domain instantly by using deposit you had but only for money he sends.

Say they add funds to the tune of $7 then the $7 is sent to you and automatically they can have domain or services worth $7 from you. So, if you were selling domain for $7 but got it for $5, $5 is taken from your deposit and domain provided to the buyer. $2 is the profit you keep.

Irrespective of deposits you make, payment has to be there upfront to let people buy domains from you.

Several Directi resellers offer '0 deposit subreseller accounts' and practically without upfront deposit, people can't buy domains from you automatically. They can place order but every time they do so, they will have to wait for you to add funds in your reseller account and let them have domain. Domain industry thrives on competence and no one would want to wait for say an hour even when they can get same cheap pricing elsewhere and domain instantly.
Thing is unless you are getting it from registry directly, you are in same boat as any other and there would be a competitive pricing always. :)
 
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