Ha!

[Senad]

Well now that I am no longer a competitor in the hosting business I could fullfil the itches that were scratching me in regards to the Ethic of Review discussion with PolurNet without getting placed a finger on stating that I am the competition.

I attempted to make a link in my signature only to have it removed and so placed it on again and recieved a warning from NamePros. It was very strange since I did not violate any Rules...but then again NamePros...as I concluded.... does hold a lot of bias towards protecting PolurNet especially since they now sponsor the forums...Now I know why Anad wanted to bring the discussion over there...big bias so he can attempt to make him look better...shady as always.

Thought I would share this little experience and give a little update.

MODS Please merge this thread with the ethics if you can.

 

[Artashes]

If we merge threads, we'll have to reopen them as well. We'd rather not.

So what happened that you are a free bird now?

 

[Senad]

I will be moving to the Middle East (UAE..Dubai,Qatar, etc...). I recieved some excellent offers that will enhance my job and life in general...lets just say too good to pass up (I will be completing my Masters in Network Security). But fear not for I will still be active here .

 

[GeorgeC]

Just saw this post and could not pass up the opportunity to make a quick comment about the now-defunct SenchiHost (especially since Senad is clearly watching this thread).

When I first started working with SenchiHost, I was very pleasantly surprised by the quality of service and the remarkably low prices that Senad offered. Unfortunately, it all went downhill from there. I could live with AwStats being disabled due to its incompatibility with DirectAdmin but, when in early February, the logs software in genearl went down the plug as well, I was seriously worried (as longs weren't being recorded for about two weeks, I had no idea where my visitors where coming from).

Then, on Feb 26 or so, lo and behold, SenchiHost gets sold! Needless to say, this came as a bit of a surprise to me as a customer, since I had no idea about the upcoming merger. However, since I was fairly satisfied with DirectAdmin, I chose to continue using it and keep working with the new owner, instead of switching to their Fantastico package. That was ultimately my undoing - about two weeks after the merger, all my DirectAdmin sites went down. I contacted the new owner - GM Servers - and eventually they informed me that despite their repeated requests to Senad that the DirectAdmin server be kept going for another month, but instead what happened is that 10 days after the merger, Senad shut the server down. Everyone who was still using Direct Admin lost all the data they had since they last backup.

So, Senad, if you're reading this, I hope you feel happy about screwing your customers over and making a quick buck out of selling SenchiHost. I reallly liked your service initially (though, like I explained, it all went downhill from there) and, in fact, recommended it to a few of my friends - a mistake that I regret even now.

Regards,
George Chernikov
Former SenchiHost Subscriber

 

[Senad]

I'm sorry to hear that George but as stated on WHT I was assured quality service to all of you and I feel just as bad as anybody else. I did not sell the hosting company for a "quick buck". I wasn't even selling ot the highest bidder but to the bidder that assured me the most quality for all of my customers. I did not shut the server down, GMServer stated that they would move you. They had 15+ days to move and they said they could do it so if GMServer is lying then I am very outraged by this as well. The new management at Steadfast worked day and night to fix the logs and later found out it was a bug with FreeBSD 6.0. There was nothing we could do until the patch as I stated earlier.

GMServers never e-mailed me in regards keeping the server up as well.

Once again I apologize for the hardships you experienced as it was never my intent to sell and when that did arrive I sold not to the highest bidder but to the one that gave me the most assurances in offering quality to all of the customers. I also fail to see how I cannot understand how you believe that I should not take an opprotunity to advance somewhere in my life. I'm sure you would just as well? Or maybe I do not deserve to?

 

[GeorgeC]

Hi Senad,

Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm afraid I must remark that that relying on another company to deliver quality customer service to your clients is not exactly a professional approach, because, should something go wrong, you will be one the parties that your customers will blame - as has happened in this particular case. Assurances and guarantees are a lovely thing to have, but they should not replace contigency planning - and, in your case, they clearly did.

Also, I fear you're misinterpreting what I wrote in my earlier post - I'm not suggesting that you deny yourself the opportunity to advance in your life. However, since you asked me what I would do, I personally wouldn't "advance my life" at the expense of my clients. I am sorry to say this, but ensuring a smooth transition was as much a responsibility of SenchiHost (and thus, yours) as it was of GM Servers, and, ultimately, both parties should be held accountable for the loss of data (which is one of the reasons I'm not renewing my GM Servers hosting service in April). As a paying customer, I'm not interested in why a failure or a mistake has occured - I only care about the fact that it has, indeed, occured, leading to a loss of data (and, consequently, money) on my part.

Regards,
George

 

[Senad]

Hi Senad,

Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm afraid I must remark that that relying on another company to deliver quality customer service to your clients is not exactly a professional approach, because, should something go wrong, you will be one the parties that your customers will blame - as has happened in this particular case. Assurances and guarantees are a lovely thing to have, but they should not replace contigency planning - and, in your case, they clearly did.

The company was sold with a guarantee of quality of service to our customers. How is it not a professional approach when the company purchased us and during the purchase, before I made the choice, I was guaranteed of professional services. I fail to understand how I should have contingency planning placed on the transaction when I sold and the buyee guaranteed to provide quality services, including backup of the data and movement to the datacenter. The company had 12+ days to move and I even gave them extra time in which I told them the server would be down (7 days extra). I told them if they had problems to contact me and I would help out which they did not which meant that it was a good sign of transfer nor did I recieve any e-mails from customers in regards to complaints during the move. I even stated to e-mail me directly yet I recieved a few which were support questions and frankly none from you. I was on 14 hour shifts during this time and even on Live Kayako Support Chat in case customers had problems.

Also, I fear you're misinterpreting what I wrote in my earlier post - I'm not suggesting that you deny yourself the opportunity to advance in your life. However, since you asked me what I would do, I personally wouldn't "advance my life" at the expense of my clients. I am sorry to say this, but ensuring a smooth transition was as much a responsibility of SenchiHost (and thus, yours) as it was of GM Servers, and, ultimately, both parties should be held accountable for the loss of data (which is one of the reasons I'm not renewing my GM Servers hosting service in April). As a paying customer, I'm not interested in why a failure or a mistake has occured - I only care about the fact that it has, indeed, occured, leading to a loss of data (and, consequently, money) on my part.

Regards,
George

First of all please note that the sale was not only the expense of my own as I did lose money (I sold the company to not the highest bidder and made zero profit in the end but an actual net loss) and an expense to customers as well. I can take blame so much in this situation as the GMServer gave me guarantees about data transfer, movement, and services to customers. Contingency planning should have been there but again it should have been planning done by the buyer. I've purchased clients before and our contingency plan required instant data transfers to two different servers (and the main server) during a migration of clients. GMServer had none nor did they seem to move all clients within a more then generous time frame given (there were not that many customers really). Once again I do apologize for your losses and I hope you find an excellent host for your services that will provide you with the best. I wish you the best in life and the best in your ventures.

Regards,
Senad

 

[magicdomains]

This is my first post here and I could have been not less bothered registering if it was not for the ongoing defamation of PolurNet.
Actually, I have been a customer of PolurNet for a long time now, I once read about their reseller offers and decided this was a good deal.
Moreover, Anand made sure that everything was moved from my old host, properly installed and helped me many times whenever I did not know how to deal with something.
I appreciate the fact that I can contact him not only through their site ( and support there was always fast and efficient ) but can get in contact through Namepros or DNF.

The first time ever that I read through this forum was when I was searching for my site and found this silly and business ruining thread:
http://www.hostingdiscussion.com/web-hosting-discussion/7247-ethics-review-incentives-4.html

As stated, I have been a customer of PolurNet for a long time. Any post that I have ever made about PolurNet were done because I am really happy with their service.
I was NEVER approached to make a review of their service.
It was stated that some user reviews might not be real...only because none of their websites or further information were given...
HELLO... people have different usernames occasionally, does this mean they are not allowed to post on other forums about a service they appreciate?

By all means, Senad owned a hosting company, jmweb does...and is it not amazing that they like to publically post so called "information" that could easily ruin a competitors business???

While I normally like to stay polite whatever happens, Sorry, but I think they are a bunch of retards that should back off.
:smash:

 

[Senad]

This is my first post here and I could have been not less bothered registering if it was not for the ongoing defamation of PolurNet.
Actually, I have been a customer of PolurNet for a long time now, I once read about their reseller offers and decided this was a good deal.
Moreover, Anand made sure that everything was moved from my old host, properly installed and helped me many times whenever I did not know how to deal with something.
I appreciate the fact that I can contact him not only through their site ( and support there was always fast and efficient ) but can get in contact through Namepros or DNF.

The first time ever that I read through this forum was when I was searching for my site and found this silly and business ruining thread:
http://www.hostingdiscussion.com/web-hosting-discussion/7247-ethics-review-incentives-4.html

As stated, I have been a customer of PolurNet for a long time. Any post that I have ever made about PolurNet were done because I am really happy with their service.
I was NEVER approached to make a review of their service.
It was stated that some user reviews might not be real...only because none of their websites or further information were given...
HELLO... people have different usernames occasionally, does this mean they are not allowed to post on other forums about a service they appreciate?

By all means, Senad owned a hosting company, jmweb does...and is it not amazing that they like to publically post so called "information" that could easily ruin a competitors business???

While I normally like to stay polite whatever happens, Sorry, but I think they are a bunch of retards that should back off.
:smash:

1) I do not own a hosting business anymore. Hence why I choose to bring this topic back up once again.
2) Obviously you have not read thouroughly through that thread. If you did you would find it well informed. Especially the part where they are not registered, pay taxes, etc...
3) What domain name do you host with them?
4) How long is "very long" in regards to being a customer?

 

[magicdomains]

You just can´t stop it, can you?
Blaming everybody else, PolurNet, NamePros, GMServer...

As for 1) That´s why:
"Well now that I am no longer a competitor in the hosting business I could fullfil the itches that were scratching me in regards to the Ethic of Review discussion with PolurNet ".

Yes, I did read thoroughly through this, but, what has all this tax debate to do with the original accusations of "false" reviews??
Some companies exists for years before paying tax, some are under the umbrella of another company, whatever it is, it surely has NOTHING to do with this discussion.

My domains??? None of your business.

How long I have been a customer of PolurNet? Must be 9-10 months now, I think this qualifies me making reviews of the company.

 

[Artashes]

My domains??? None of your business.

Actually, it is common to be asked about your domains. Such practice is active on most forums, and allows the community to verify the validity of reviews. As marketing power of communities grow, you'd be surprised at the numbers of people who leave fake reviews without mentioning their URL along with it.

Best,

 

[Senad]

You just can´t stop it, can you?
Blaming everybody else, PolurNet, NamePros, GMServer...

As for 1) That´s why:
"Well now that I am no longer a competitor in the hosting business I could fullfil the itches that were scratching me in regards to the Ethic of Review discussion with PolurNet ".

Yes, I did read thoroughly through this, but, what has all this tax debate to do with the original accusations of "false" reviews??
Some companies exists for years before paying tax, some are under the umbrella of another company, whatever it is, it surely has NOTHING to do with this discussion.

My domains??? None of your business.

How long I have been a customer of PolurNet? Must be 9-10 months now, I think this qualifies me making reviews of the company.

Sorry I don't blame everybody you can clearly see I took my part of the blame in regards to the sale and until you decide to be more open and share your domains you will be nothing than a PolurNet cronie. Frankly you stating 9-10 months as a customer means nothing until you share your domains so we can verify. Also PolurNet has been in business for about 9 months now so I know it can't be 10 . Your qualifications of review do not necessarily make your qualified. Fake reviews, incentives, your possible lack of knowledge can all pertain to your reviews being null and void. For instance uptime...you might not care that they 99.709% uptime during certain tests (http://ver2.webhost-review.info/index_test_2501.html) but others might find this uptime just horride (such as myself). So please tell me what makes you so more qualified than me to make reviews?


Also,
PolurNet has gone and bashed other companies...and yet you state nothing about that? Sounds like a DOUBLE STANDARD is at play here....

Being an Illegal entity has everything to do with the discussion. They clearly stated they were a legal entity and we found that they are lying. It shows that they can easily lie and be deciteful yes?

 

[PolurNET]

WTF? Senad at it again!!

Sorry I don't blame everybody you can clearly see I took my part of the blame in regards to the sale and until you decide to be more open and share your domains you will be nothing than a PolurNet cronie. Frankly you stating 9-10 months as a customer means nothing until you share your domains so we can verify. Also PolurNet has been in business for about 9 months now so I know it can't be 10 . Your qualifications of review do not necessarily make your qualified. Fake reviews, incentives, your possible lack of knowledge can all pertain to your reviews being null and void. For instance uptime...you might not care that they 99.709% uptime during certain tests (http://ver2.webhost-review.info/index_test_2501.html) but others might find this uptime just horride (such as myself). So please tell me what makes you so more qualified than me to make reviews?

WHAT BS is this I see?? So someone from Namepros kindly tells me via PM something is being stirred up here again, and guess what... the INFAMOUS SENAD at the helm of lies again!

9 months in business??? Where did you get that from? She's been a customer well over 9 months in fact, close to a year indeed! So don't spread some Senad-style BS around, you're looking more like a fool as days go on

Lies, lies, lies. Sigh... you say Namepros banned you for doing "nothing" when YOU BROKE multiple rules... firstly advertising another forum, secondly defammatory comments, thirdly justifying you're apparent idiotic actions. You've got one warning point on Namepros left, before you're banned for good, and that's due to a LOT of reasons.

Also,
PolurNet has gone and bashed other companies...and yet you state nothing about that? Sounds like a DOUBLE STANDARD is at play here....

Being an Illegal entity has everything to do with the discussion. They clearly stated they were a legal entity and we found that they are lying. It shows that they can easily lie and be deciteful yes?

LOL, bashed who? Ah wait, you're little "I got this thread, remember!" on Namepros eh... lol, apparently look at this humorous Seand:

http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=488155

So he sells the company saying "it's a GREAT deal", and guess how many
clients he has?

A mere 33 of them making $172.50/mth... in contrast with our 350+ customers, and yet he denies any jealously involved... what a plain liar. You can't just admit he has several problems of his own, and instead decides to pursuechildish opportunities to avoid the reality of his problems. Artashes says in another thread "As far as I know, Senad runs a fine company"... well guess what? George above clearly remarked the disasterous consquences he faced when Senad selfishly sold the company overnight, and left the customers to deal their own business... not to mention he lost all his files.

News to you! George told me everything about his experience, and is now a happy customer with us, and is enjoying every bit of it... and indeed, he (as well as your other apparent 32 clients) resents your overnight actions and terrible policies. Jeez, when you talk about double standard, look at your own mirror! It stinks!

http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=494518&page=2&highlight=senchihost

"I love how every post I make you try to continually bash me in some way
shape or form. If you don't know the full details of the deal then there is
no reason for you to make assumptions and replies like you always do. And as
stated to you before David, there is no next time as I am out of the business
due to career opprotunities abroad."

Soooo Senad you post this on WHT, eh? How does it feel to be bashed, when YOU ARE THE ONE BASHING us on hostingdiscussion as well?? Karma will come get him eventually (as it is now) but this stupidity in contradicting yourself continually has got to stop. You say you don't like to be bashed by someone else, but finds it quite appropriate to bash others with outright no evidence as he has done on HD.

Artashes, I can't believe you allow this to continually spread like a wildfire of lies;anyway, Senad's self-interests here are being demonstrated without my intervention, and customers are already speaking up. I noticed a dvduval also posted on another thread, and seems you tactfully avoided replying for the first time!

We'll see what magicdomains has to say tomorrow when she's back... I'm sure she'll NOT be amused by your continued lies and obvious stupidity

PS: What's drastically funny is your uptime remark! You don't realize you unplugged your own servers and left your customers in the dark, but you're in dreams now as if you had good uptime... wake up man, you're losing ground quickly and apparently don't realize your contradictions. Not only do we have over 10 servers, the uptime by that review site monitors a single VPS server the customer requested. Seriously, you dont realize how big we are as a company, and try to bring your selfish interests here. Just stop it before more dirty details come out about you.

 

[Senad]

WHAT BS is this I see?? So someone from Namepros kindly tells me via PM something is being stirred up here again, and guess what... the INFAMOUS SENAD at the helm of lies again!

9 months in business??? Where did you get that from? She's been a customer well over 9 months in fact, close to a year indeed! So don't spread some Senad-style BS around, you're looking more like a fool as days go on.

Ah my bad I looked at the whois wrong (Just double checked).

Lies, lies, lies. Sigh... you say Namepros banned you for doing "nothing" when YOU BROKE multiple rules... firstly advertising another forum, secondly defammatory comments, thirdly justifying you're apparent idiotic actions. You've got one warning point on Namepros left, before you're banned for good, and that's due to a LOT of reasons.

Interesting how others can advertise their forums and they had no problem until I brought the discussion about YOU into it. Also very interesting how a sponsor like yourself knows a lot about the warning system and how many "points" I have left. Care to explain?

LOL, bashed who? Ah wait, you're little "I got this thread, remember!" on Namepros eh... lol, apparently look at this humorous Seand:

http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=488155

So he sells the company saying "it's a GREAT deal", and guess how many
clients he has?

A mere 33 of them making $172.50/mth... in contrast with our 350+ customers, and yet he denies any jealously involved... what a plain liar. You can't just admit he has several problems of his own, and instead decides to pursuechildish opportunities to avoid the reality of his problems. Artashes says in another thread "As far as I know, Senad runs a fine company"... well guess what? George above clearly remarked the disasterous consquences he faced when Senad selfishly sold the company overnight, and left the customers to deal their own business... not to mention he lost all his files.

Once again I did not lose the files, GMServers did not back them up in time. If you READ which you don't you would clearly understand. Oh wait what about your fine company that got its servers hacked and you came crying to WHT asking how to solve the situation? Yeah two can play at this game PolurNet. Also other threads in which you have bashed on WHT you have either A) Edited, B) had deleted. We've all seen them...you just live your fantasy of not bashing competition. The company was not sold overnight as discussions went on with GMServer for a while. I love how you make claimless remarks based on ZERO evidence (while I have made remarks with evidence at hand...see the difference yet?). If we wish to talk about selfslishness and greed then why did you post on your competitors forums? Why do you hire children for underwage pay? Why do you continue to advertise LLC (false advertising at hand here) while you have none?

News to you! George told me everything about his experience, and is now a happy customer with us, and is enjoying every bit of it... and indeed, he (as well as your other apparent 32 clients) resents your overnight actions and terrible policies. Jeez, when you talk about double standard, look at your own mirror! It stinks!

http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=494518&page=2&highlight=senchihost

Once again this was AFTER the company was sold and I had no power in it. George had no problems when I was leading the flagship nor did he complain about anything. In fact he even made a nice customer feedback about us. Interesting how you are asking customes about previous expereinces in order to try to gain an advantage in an arguement. Bugging customers for information is by far a very low business practice standard. Yet another moral issue I see within your company.

"I love how every post I make you try to continually bash me in some way
shape or form. If you don't know the full details of the deal then there is
no reason for you to make assumptions and replies like you always do. And as
stated to you before David, there is no next time as I am out of the business
due to career opprotunities abroad."

David on WHT is a pure asshole and many don't like him as he always attacks without a purpose. I once again ask you WHY ARE YOU DONIG BUSINESS ILLEGAL WITHOUT A LICENSE? WHY HAVE YOU NOT ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS IN THE PREVIOUS THREAD?

Soooo Senad you post this on WHT, eh? How does it feel to be bashed, when YOU ARE THE ONE BASHING us on hostingdiscussion as well?? Karma will come get him eventually (as it is now) but this stupidity in contradicting yourself continually has got to stop. You say you don't like to be bashed by someone else, but finds it quite appropriate to bash others with outright no evidence as he has done on HD.


Artashes, I can't believe you allow this to continually spread like a wildfire of lies;anyway, Senad's self-interests here are being demonstrated without my intervention, and customers are already speaking up. I noticed a dvduval also posted on another thread, and seems you tactfully avoided replying for the first time!

Actually dvduval posted about his hosting experience with you by making assumptions about the company without using your services. Kinda odd don't ya think? He allows this post because he saw the evidence by JMWeb and by others and you have still failed to address the issues. Before we go further into this...what exactly IS your relationship with JMWeb...IE what is your history with him? Are you two purely on a hate-hate basis trying to destroy each other on NamePros?

We'll see what magicdomains has to say tomorrow when she's back... I'm sure she'll NOT be amused by your continued lies and obvious stupidity

I hope she does come because I'd love to hear from her. She obviously has had experience with you and once she validates her domain name I will respect her post. Obviously evidence was brought up and I want stuff cleared up since you failed to answer it.

PS: What's drastically funny is your uptime remark! You don't realize you unplugged your own servers and left your customers in the dark, but you're in dreams now as if you had good uptime... wake up man, you're losing ground quickly and apparently don't realize your contradictions. Not only do we have over 10 servers, the uptime by that review site monitors a single VPS server the customer requested. Seriously, you dont realize how big we are as a company, and try to bring your selfish interests here. Just stop it before more dirty details come out about you.

Once again the agreement was made and everything was timed. It was not my responsibility to keep the server up unless I was contacted which I was not. I have nothing to hide so there are really no "dirty details". I will be as open about it as I can in regards to my sale without violating non-disclosure agreements. Also if you read about the sale on WHT you will also see that GMServers did take the blame on losing client data. There was no leaving clients dry as I was still doing support until the March 1, 2006 full takeover and even then I was available to answer questions via mail and Yahoo/MSN/AIM. So making false accusations that I left clients high and dry is nothing more than typical slander that you are so used to doing.

So now that I have gotten your attention...I'll ask again...


WHY ARE YOU DONIG BUSINESS ILLEGAL WITHOUT A LICENSE? WHY HAVE YOU NOT ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS IN THE PREVIOUS THREAD? WHY ARE YOU IGNORING CHILD LABOR LAWS? WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO EVADE THE QUESTIONS AT HAND ABOUT THE EVIDENCE BROUGHT UPON YOU BY JMWEB?

Once these questions (in uppercase) are answered BY YOU NOT YOUR CUSTOMERS, I will let the topic go but as long as you continue to lie and be shady I will simply persue the situation at hand (I've got enough time to pack for my departure can you keep being shady and sly for another 3 months?)

 

[Artashes]

All these questions were asked before. All of these questions were left unanswered, so I do not see how going into them again will magically get them answered. They won't be. So let's have this thread rest in peace as we've done it before.