HostLeet
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Just found out about this.. Thoughts? I wonder if this has anything to do with EIG taking over HG. Maybe the employee didn't approve of the takeover?:shh:
Former HostGator employee arrested *charged with rooting 2,700 servers!
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Just found out about this.. Thoughts? I wonder if this has anything to do with EIG taking over HG. Maybe the employee didn't approve of the takeover?:shh:
easyhostmedia
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but the backdoor would have been planted well before he was fired, so he would and most likely been using this backdoor. HG has also had bad security, just look at the WHMCS incident
Alex - A2 Hosting
Active member
They have had a couple hits but to call their security bad in general is a little harsh. They have some very talented people there (and then the others
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easyhostmedia
Well-known member
HG wont be the first and they wont be the last to have rogue employees.
Look at Microsoft and the Vista release, within 5 minutes of its release, it was being sold on street corners for peanuts and MS said this was not due to an internal leak ( well in my books it had to be an internal leak)
Look at Microsoft and the Vista release, within 5 minutes of its release, it was being sold on street corners for peanuts and MS said this was not due to an internal leak ( well in my books it had to be an internal leak)
rowebca
Member
Most of the big companies are not looking for moral people, moral people are extremely dangerous because cannot be manipulated, bribed, so most of the owners of any business, to make successfully businesses, they have to lie, trick customers, cheat etc. So they don't need people, they need "dolls". This is my opinion coming from a long experience in work at different levels. North America is well orientated to money (like their god), so people will do anything, I mean anything, to succeed, to get a better position etc. It is sad that human being it is so easy to be manipulated. For me it is better to lose my job than to step over other people (immorally) just to get a better position.
Regards
easyhostmedia
Well-known member
This also happens in the UK. I remember working for a well known (i wont say who) company on their sales team and i was sent to secure this large contract and i was told to do anything (and i mean anything, it was suggested that i seduce their contact and sleep with her if needed) to secure the contract, well this is totally against my principles, so i went to the meeting as arranged, but told her exactly what i was told to do in order to secure the contract (you can imagine her reaction), so we had the meal that was planned ans paid for (why not), making sure we ordered the most expensive items the restaurant had and then we both headed back to my office, where i typed up my resignation and then went to the sales directors office where i handed my resignation in and she told them bluntly they wont get the contract or any other from their company. i left them arguing and went to clear my desk and then just left
I agree and this way of thinking is why I am still on the lower level of employees. My mom calls it the low man /woman on the totem poll.
I have seen co workers get other co workers fired just to go up the ranks. That is not something I would do however.
SwiftHosting
New member
Does make me ask the question, "how safe is our servers?"
I suppose you will always get rouges working for you, but whats the best way to mitigate this?
I suppose you will always get rouges working for you, but whats the best way to mitigate this?
I agree 110% with that statement. Where I work now, one of my jobs, is the exact same way. You have to take a 75 question "test" to see if you're a good fit for the company. Most of those questions are psychological in nature. Very few, if any, have anything to do with the job itself.
To the big companies, which is most of them, who want "dolls" instead of thinking employees.......all I have to say is this: You get what you pay for. You get people who are unethical by nature and they will turn on you as quickly as anyone else. It's what they're trained to do after all and the person who got arrested here is the perfect case in point.
How businesses like this can sustain themselves in the long term is beyond me, and why people want to live that way is even further out of my reach.
cdd.hosting
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The most big trouble of big business is managing your staff. This is one example of how important is to get not only skilled but also good people
I haven't been with a company yet that didn't have some incredibly talented employees, and I'm guessing Hostgator is no different.
The problem with rogue employees is that they have inside knowledge which makes them especially dangerous. In a previous lifetime, I had to fire a sysadmin for downloading child porn and it was later determined via a 3rd party audit that he had installed a backdoor to our network.
It's sad, but sometimes you develop friendships with employees who later turn out to be real snakes and this is true cross-industry. Unfortunately, some rogue employees can be very cunning.
The problem with rogue employees is that they have inside knowledge which makes them especially dangerous. In a previous lifetime, I had to fire a sysadmin for downloading child porn and it was later determined via a 3rd party audit that he had installed a backdoor to our network.
It's sad, but sometimes you develop friendships with employees who later turn out to be real snakes and this is true cross-industry. Unfortunately, some rogue employees can be very cunning.
rowebca
Member
It is because today business owners wants dolls not people, and everything is based on money not on real values. I am a high moral person and doesn't matter where I worked I'll never do revenge, because revenge is the weapon of low intelligent people. ( I am strictly talking about revenge in work case). I worked in a big company in Europe and was a time when the owner (to sell the company at a higher price) told me to do something illegal and I answer that I won't do it, but the owner didn't fire me because he knew I am like that and he put somebody else to do it. Of course I wasn't a successfully person because of this but I am sleeping very well over night. It all that matters. Money is not everything in this life, but I see today, especially in North America that sometimes people are not doing anymore a difference between good and evil....
You'll never see moral people rich....
Just imagine this world with number one of importance to be MORALITY not money.
Can you?
Regards
P.S Sorry for my bad English.
HostMantis
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Absolutely. Anyone having access to sensitive information is a risk.
And unfortunately, when it comes to employees, there is usually always at least 1 bad apple in the bunch.
paul-ukwsd
New member
Don't employ people
Kind of like the how to make the server 100% secure, unplug it... I think this is an isolated incident, most adults leaving employment do not wish to be taken to court for being so stupid.
Alex - A2 Hosting
Active member
Don't employ people
I think this is an isolated incident, most adults leaving employment do not wish to be taken to court for being so stupid.
Still best to always check constantly in case you do get that rouge employee. I wonder how long ago he did this to the servers, I assume his access was terminated when his employment was so this must have been set during his employment. If this was after then HostGator might want to look into that and change this so it doesn't happen again.
interservermike
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That's True, sometimes we really need to be careful of the people we trust. One mistake or misunderstanding , the next thing you know they created a backdoor and packed up everything they can take.
Sad.. but not everyone is like that though, it's a relief. :agree:
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