American Child Abuse?

Blue

Blue

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This seems to me to be an uniquely American phenomenon.
As far as I'm concerned it is systematic sanctioned child abuse.

What kind of people do this?
Perhaps memories are too short and Jon Benet Ramsey is a long past memory but her Mother was a perpetrator of this behavior as well.

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/toddlers-tiaras/about-toddlers-and-tiaras.html

Any thoughts on this? Dressing your little girl up like a high end whore and parading her in public?
Perhaps I'm off base here but I can imagine no good coming out of these type of competitions at this young age.
 
What evidence can you provide that suggests this is an American phenomenon? Or child abuse? Dressing them up for beauty contests does not make them high end whores. Off base? - you're out of the stadium !!
@HostLeet - how the heck does participating in a beauty contest (at any age) equate to pedophiles?
 
Steve-Hostirian said:
What evidence can you provide that suggests this is an American phenomenon? Or child abuse? Dressing them up for beauty contests does not make them high end whores. Off base? - you're out of the stadium !!
@HostLeet - how the heck does participating in a beauty contest (at any age) equate to pedophiles?
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Whoever sets these types of competitions up are a bunch of pedophiles!

Why does a 5-9 year old little girl need to be in a beauty contest, covered in make-up and dressing like that? So a bunch of sick men and women with issues can get a kick out of it? It is abuse....Those kids should be outside playing and being kids, not doing this crap. :disagree:

My :twocents:
 
I agree that kids this age should be outside playing and being kids, but that doesn't equate to promoters, contestants, parents or otherwise related to beauty contests automatically being sick with issues. You can find people sick with issues across the board.

We play with our grandchildren everyday outside - tetherball, wiffleball, volleyball - two of them are between 5 and 9 . We play on the Wii inside and play card and board games as well. Our 5 year old granddaughter loves to dress up - and play with paper dolls. I can't imagine them ever coming up and asking to be in a beauty contest, but if they did, we would all talk about it. Some parents who enter their children in these contests do have issues, but to blantantly call all of them pedophiles is a stretch.
 
Show me another place that promotes this kind of abuse of children and I will take back that it is an American phenomenon.
I have yet to see it going on in any other country I have been in.
And yes, it is child abuse, pure and simple.
 
Blue said:
Show me another place that promotes this kind of abuse of children and I will take back that it is an American phenomenon.
I have yet to see it going on in any other country I have been in.
And yes, it is child abuse, pure and simple.
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There's nothing pure and simple about such a broad statement.
 
In my eyes there is.
There is absolutely nothing that can benefit these children by being paraded around like this. Dressing little girls up like 20 year old women is just a formula for abuse.
 
Yeah, kids shouldn't be out like that. To me it's kind of wrong. When she gets 16 she will be wearing the same thing and you will get mad, but while she is 6 or 8 it's fine? I don't think so.
 
Steve-Hostirian said:
I agree that kids this age should be outside playing and being kids, but that doesn't equate to promoters, contestants, parents or otherwise related to beauty contests automatically being sick with issues. You can find people sick with issues across the board.

We play with our grandchildren everyday outside - tetherball, wiffleball, volleyball - two of them are between 5 and 9 . We play on the Wii inside and play card and board games as well. Our 5 year old granddaughter loves to dress up - and play with paper dolls. I can't imagine them ever coming up and asking to be in a beauty contest, but if they did, we would all talk about it. Some parents who enter their children in these contests do have issues, but to blantantly call all of them pedophiles is a stretch.
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You're right, I understand that's not the case for everyone, but it is for alot of them that are into that. I was just trying to make a my point. :D
 
This may well be an American phenomenon, but I doubt it has to do with pedophiles, and more to do with business. Just because there are dogs/cats shows doesn't mean all those involved are zoophiles. Some may be, but that's a given anywhere on a busy street. :)

There's money to be made from these contests, and that's that. I would rather be worried about this being an accepted form of child labor.
 
Blue said:
Show me another place that promotes this kind of abuse of children and I will take back that it is an American phenomenon.
I have yet to see it going on in any other country I have been in.
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First, referencing another country that promotes beauty contests doesn't mean they promote abuse of children. It took me all of 2 minutes to find this URL
 
ldcdc said:
This may well be an American phenomenon, but I doubt it has to do with pedophiles, and more to do with business. Just because there are dogs/cats shows doesn't mean all those involved are zoophiles. Some may be, but that's a given anywhere on a busy street. :)

There's money to be made from these contests, and that's that. I would rather be worried about this being an accepted form of child labor.
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Just as bad. Making money off of dressing your kids up lilke little sluts is still despicable.
 
The movie Little Miss Sunshine comes to mind.

The fact that there is money involvement in these contests speak loudly about the existence of public interest in these events. Clearly there is a niche for it.

The best thing you can do, if you don't like it, is to not support it. Simply don't participate, don't watch it and don't read the press covering these events. In the free world, as long as its legal, people can choose to participate in any event. Personally, I find these events (emotions and excuses that drive parents' motivation) rather suspicious and sad than happy or amusing, and will never put my child through anything remotely close to this level of public exposure and sick unnatural appearance.
 
It's easy to say just don't watch.
That does the children who are being abused no good though does it.
These events should be banned.
Just because they make money for certain sleazy parents and generate revenue for sleazy TV networks who show the stuff doesn't mean it should be allowed.

I see so many people kicking and screaming that the Chinese are abusing children by forcing them to practice hour after hour after hour to become Olympians.
How is this any different? Perhaps because it's not the big bad China who is perpetrating the offense?
 
So this isn't a "real" problem?

Maybe not to you but it is to me.
I don't see why I would have to focus on a single issue. This topic is about the sleazy abuse of children in pre-teen beauty contests.
If you would like I can start a different thread about child labor.
 
So this isn't a "real" problem?
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Child labor in developing countries is more of a symptom/warning sign of a "real" problem. It's tragic, yes, but cracking down on it won't do much good.

I don't see why I would have to focus on a single issue.
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Let me give you a scenario. Desperate parent in a developing country with a desperate family are all struggling to survive. Desperate parent puts kids to work in order to have enough money/food to keep the family alive.

Shocked by the rise in "child labor" the government cracks down, pushing the family off the edge.
 
I'm not sure I get your point.
Are you advocating child labor?

I'm also not sure how this relates to child beauty pageants in the US.
 
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