WHM-Host

[Artashes]

Keston, I was wondering. If the cheapest 1 gb of bandwidth one could get ever is $0.07 per gigabyte, 50GB would arrive at $3.5 worth. Plus the space cost, IP cost, client service and support, transaction fee, etc. All this definitely cost more than $5. How are you able to provide such an offer and pay for at least equipment? Are you operating in the United States or outside? Are the operating costs any different?

Also, plans and pricing on your home page left me a bit confused. Those plans on pricing do not match what it says on hosting offers pages inside.

Thanks for clarifications.

 

[al1]

It would be nice to hear an explanation.
Too good to be true but i heard some good reviews about them.

 

[Keston E.]

Keston, I was wondering. If the cheapest 1 gb of bandwidth one could get ever is $0.07 per gigabyte, 50GB would arrive at $3.5 worth. Plus the space cost, IP cost, client service and support, transaction fee, etc. All this definitely cost more than $5. How are you able to provide such an offer and pay for at least equipment? Are you operating in the United States or outside? Are the operating costs any different?

Also, plans and pricing on your home page left me a bit confused. Those plans on pricing do not match what it says on hosting offers pages inside.

Thanks for clarifications.

************ is able to provide so much by having a established foundation as well as a mass amount of clients. Most of our clients * do not signup for the prices on our site but aim for higher packages. We are able to provide support via our administration team some of our staff pitch in a couple of hrs per day and some of them work the entire day and yes Artashes we are operating in the lovely U.S. of America. ************ continues to prove our self as a proven web host and will continue.

 

[Artashes]

Keston, that is great to hear. I'm not in a position to "question", but you haven't really addressed the issue of offering so much data transfer for $5. Do you really make profit off a user who uses all 50GB?

It is just for the industry standard rate per GB of transfer that comes to being a very low price. Some may think you are overselling, so this is the chance to actually prove us wrong. Again, this can be because I don't know the infrastructure and operational plan of your venture.

Best,

 

[Keston E.]

Well I would say Artashes but then that will ruin our company plan on how we tend to gain profit. .

 

[Blue]

For a company that was registered a few months ago I would be a little sceptical of claims of "mass amount of clients" and "administration teams".
What we in the industry call it Art, is Mass Overselling.

Sorry Keston, but the only companies who grow at the rate you suggest charge for their bandwidth and spend huge amounts of money on advertising. I have yet to see a huge advertising campaign from whm-host.

That leaves big time overselling as the only option.

Let's say you were a reseller for ezwebhosters.com for instance, they charge quite a bit of money for bandwidth.
Even if you are getting a dedicated server from them from Managed.com there is still no way to make a profit without overselling.

Even though managed.com are a bargain basement provider, the numbers still don't work out.

 

[Artashes]

Blue, there is another option. I would say that mass growth of whm might include the fact that they also specialize in free hosting, which, no science testing necessary, attract masses of webmasters. If they are later on "switched" to or advertised to of whm paid services, even though they are not using all of the 50 GB, then might make a profit. However, advertising more resources for sale than a host can provide in full is misleading advertising.

They might also receive extra revenue from advertising off free account holders. Of course these are all guesses.

Best,

 

[Keston E.]

We do not place advertisements on our free clients websites and yes our free clients do upgrade, or refer paid clients and no WE DO NOT over sell massively as some people think we do how ever though the opertations of how we go about business are strictly confidential.

 

[Artashes]

how ever though the opertations of how we go about business are strictly confidential.

And that is respected by us. In that case, keep in mind that any average user will always question the performance of your company, even though it might provide the best service in town. It is just how people are.

 

[Keston E.]

No problem, I will keep that in mind.

 

[Cartika]

I havent actually looked at your site - but 50 GB for $5 - is that correct?

Come on man - thats massive overselling - nothing wrong with that - but dont spew some BS about volume, etc... no volume in the world can justify those rates - this is overselling pure and simple - I think most people wouldnt mind - especially if positioned properly - ie ) most customers wont use these resources - and for the few that do, we will re-allocate our resources to accomodate, etc..

No need to make up some BS - theres enough of this in this industry already...

 

[Keston E.]

Our prices went yp Cartika might want to check back again .

 

[ldcdc]

The prices went up? I see the Shared 1 plan has 100GB for $7.95.

 

[Keston E.]

They will be going up again shortly.

 

[RobM]

This is funny mass amount of clients. OK....

Let see you been in business for

Domain Name: *************
Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
Referral URL: http://domainhelp.tucows.com
Name Server: NS1.*************
Name Server: NS2.*************
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 24-apr-2004
Creation Date: 28-jan-2004
Expiration Date: 28-jan-2005

But your site "about" link says late 2003... thinking does not count....

You say you don't over sell much, but your forum says I mean your users even posted some information about this...
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Post by Chris

whm-host oversells anywhere from 10-20 times their alloted space, which means they don't care about future problems. I have been overselling my account with them since i signed up.
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How about the load Load Averages 1.98 1.79 1.64 :crazy2: You guys blam it on java... OK

Just read your forum... huge amount of people say slow servers, super high pings over 300ms...

This is funny, but please stop the lies. I mean there are good host here and all you do is 100% lies.


Also why are most server located here and only 1 at managed...

D. Macdonald Private Residence Private Residence Lincoln NE US 68503

 

[Keston E.]

RobM have you ever heard of domain renewal ?. Yes we are dramatically overselling our services the fact that you have never accessed our root is a good enough allegation for you to make such a statement about us dramatically overselling and the fact that you never saw our monthly income is a good enough fact to deny that we have a bit of clients. (Is it me or or is someone being a dumb @$$) RobM since I am a man of getting to the point quickly and tolerates no BS I suggest A: Get the facts correct if you are going to do some criticizing, B: Learn to worry about "how you run your business" and not whm-host we are well off and do not need to worry about "quota" problems we have already discussed this issue months ago about how we will work with quota issues (If you were in the business for a bit you will know a bit more facts about overselling the good and the bad). C: Some advise for you: Let us catch you spoofing around at our forum and we will do the same thing that we did to Chris we *do not* tolerate disrespect from no one. Keep these things in mind and I am sure that you will benefit in the longer run and one more thing, "The one who makes Judgments to quick is usually the person who has the last thing to say".

 

[Blue]

RobM have you ever heard of domain renewal

Renewals still show the original registration date, along with the new expiry date.

 

[Keston E.]

The domain was moved from registerfly to ev1 wmh-host.com is the only domain housed at ev1 at the moment .net, .us are on registerfly.com.

 

[RobM]

(If you were in the business for a bit you will know a bit more facts about overselling the good and the bad)

Are you crazy, I been doing this stuff way before you.

I know that any company overselling anything is looking for trouble. I mean you don't see any good host-overselling period.

The real way to run any company is not overselling to make your company look better then others by offering stupid packages. I mean you don't get a 1000GB server and place ads for 100GB for 7.95 per month.

YOU ARE THE ONE'S WHO MAKE A BAD NAME FOR THIS INDUSTRY.

ever heard of domain renewal

Now that's a dumb ass question, which show you how dumb a person can be and also should show you are really new. :shaky:

No matter who you transfer your domain names too, it always knows when it was created.

Some advise for you: Let us catch you spoofing around at our forum

See who's spoofing, I just making a point. Its call making sure the facts are correct as they are in the forum... opcorn:

Keep these things in mind and I am sure that you will benefit in the longer run

One last thing is don't threating me like you did to chris, thats the last thing anybody ever wants to do.

This is your only warning about that.

 

[Keston E.]

Rob.M are you trying to tell me how to run my company ( I taught that I made it "clear" in my last post about telling me how to run my business"obviously some of us do not understand english". May I please have this thread closed because this will eventually turn this into a conflict with RobM attitude.