Massive cPanel price rises

Artashes

Administrator
Staff member
The most consumer-unfriendly and brutal price increase in the history of this industry.

I wonder how many smaller companies will go out of business.
I wonder how many consumers will end up losing their websites due to absence of a habit to backup.
 

ughosting

HD Community Advisor
Staff member
This is the problem with systems run by a near monopoly.

Unfortunately, as hosts, we have played into their hands by providing customers with the same panel everywhere.
Not only has this made us all look the same, but it's tied us into having to pay them no matter what.

However, it's the natural progression.
Before we sold our business, we were operating machines with 64 cores and 256GB of RAM. Were we hosting thousands of customers per server and only paying one license.
(Thanks CloudLinux for making it possible to have that stability).
I think this is happening across the industry (on the most established hosts), so cPanel is probably seeing their profits shrink as people buy bigger and bigger servers and reducing the license count.

cPanel bought this on themselves by insisting on no lifetime licenses creating a large monthly expense, making them wholly dependant on this ever reducing monthly revenue.
 

easyhostmedia

Well-known member
The most consumer-unfriendly and brutal price increase in the history of this industry.

I wonder how many smaller companies will go out of business.
I wonder how many consumers will end up losing their websites due to absence of a habit to backup.

i think this was coming as they use the same method for WHMCS.

i see a lot of users moving to the free CWP (centos web panel) as you can migrate cpanel accounts
 

ughosting

HD Community Advisor
Staff member
You can install migrate cPanel users to DirectAdmin.

Let's hope they don't do the same.
 

whmcsguru

Active member
I saw this coming with the migration of DNSonly to 'licenses'. People mocked... I said, watch...

Well, I hate to say 'I told you so', but..........

I TOLD YOU SO!!!

/me goes back to hiding and migrating everything off of a cPanel server
 

easyhostmedia

Well-known member
I saw this coming with the migration of DNSonly to 'licenses'. People mocked... I said, watch...

Well, I hate to say 'I told you so', but..........

I TOLD YOU SO!!!

/me goes back to hiding and migrating everything off of a cPanel server
But at the moment DNSonly is still free, they just licenced this, so they know how many people are using it
 

SS-Maddy

New member
i think this was coming as they use the same method for WHMCS.

i see a lot of users moving to the free CWP (centos web panel) as you can migrate cpanel accounts

Compared to this, price hike with WHMCS was fair :) They should have a unlimited pricing atleast. Reseller hosting industry will have to change to adapt. No more unlimited domains, atleast with cPanel.

Fact is that even the staffs didn't know about this hike. I wonder whether even cPanel's Nick knew about it. For partners who have around 300 domains on each server, the costs have increased from 27 to 50+.

I still believe they will reduce the costs considering the hatred spreading.

Good for DirectAdmin, Interworx and other panels out there :)
 

easyhostmedia

Well-known member
Compared to this, price hike with WHMCS was fair :) They should have a unlimited pricing atleast. Reseller hosting industry will have to change to adapt. No more unlimited domains, atleast with cPanel.

Fact is that even the staffs didn't know about this hike. I wonder whether even cPanel's Nick knew about it. For partners who have around 300 domains on each server, the costs have increased from 27 to 50+.

I still believe they will reduce the costs considering the hatred spreading.

Good for DirectAdmin, Interworx and other panels out there :)

If you think about it Plesk have being doing this for years
 

bigredseo

HD Community Advisor
Staff member
I couldn't find answers in their documents (or maybe I wasn't looking in the right places) but with regards to the licenses, they're referring to individual accounts on a server. Does this mean, if the host has a reseller account, and that reseller has 20 accounts, then the actual host needs to pay for 20 accounts?

If so, this not only could affect smaller companies, but some of the big places too. The ones that jam 100+ resellers on a server with "unlimited resources" and then those resellers sell 100-200 accounts per account.

Again, I couldn't find much information on how it will affect reseller accounts, or how WHMCS will tie in to figure out how many accounts are active on a server etc.

Anyone have a link for details on that end of things?
 

easyhostmedia

Well-known member
I couldn't find answers in their documents (or maybe I wasn't looking in the right places) but with regards to the licenses, they're referring to individual accounts on a server. Does this mean, if the host has a reseller account, and that reseller has 20 accounts, then the actual host needs to pay for 20 accounts?

If so, this not only could affect smaller companies, but some of the big places too. The ones that jam 100+ resellers on a server with "unlimited resources" and then those resellers sell 100-200 accounts per account.

Again, I couldn't find much information on how it will affect reseller accounts, or how WHMCS will tie in to figure out how many accounts are active on a server etc.

Anyone have a link for details on that end of things?

I think its per account on a licence. i.e you have a VPS licence with 10 reseller accounts and each of them have 10 accounts on then you pay the fee for 100 accounts
 

bigredseo

HD Community Advisor
Staff member
I think its per account on a licence. i.e you have a VPS licence with 10 reseller accounts and each of them have 10 accounts on then you pay the fee for 100 accounts

That's how I was reading it too, but I couldn't find anything detailing it out that way.

As far as Oakley Capital - I believe with cPanel and Plesk, the last numbers I saw was a 70% market share.

Thankfully, when I ran webhosting, we never had any reseller accounts. People purchased VPS or Dedicated if they wanted to resell on their own. And our servers (even 5 years ago) were capped at 100 accounts per machine, and 25-30 accounts if they were an eCommerce server. That was how we kept our speeds fast.

Today, I know hardware is much better, but I'm not sure how I'd be reacting if I was still in the hosting business. We were an NOC Partner with cpanel too (had our own datacenter and servers) so pricing would have been lower, but still, the pricing change and announcment shook the industry as a whole.
 

easyhostmedia

Well-known member
That's how I was reading it too, but I couldn't find anything detailing it out that way.

As far as Oakley Capital - I believe with cPanel and Plesk, the last numbers I saw was a 70% market share.

Thankfully, when I ran webhosting, we never had any reseller accounts. People purchased VPS or Dedicated if they wanted to resell on their own. And our servers (even 5 years ago) were capped at 100 accounts per machine, and 25-30 accounts if they were an eCommerce server. That was how we kept our speeds fast.

Today, I know hardware is much better, but I'm not sure how I'd be reacting if I was still in the hosting business. We were an NOC Partner with cpanel too (had our own datacenter and servers) so pricing would have been lower, but still, the pricing change and announcment shook the industry as a whole.
i think with Oakley Capital they know how it works with plesk and how it is working with WHMCS, so they moving cPanel the same way just like they decided to licence DNSonly
 

qtechservers

New member
The massive increase in price and their complicated pricing structure! :smash:
Their email mentions "Effective immediately" so I believe monthly renewals will be charged the new price soon?
 

easyhostmedia

Well-known member
The massive increase in price and their complicated pricing structure! :smash:
Their email mentions "Effective immediately" so I believe monthly renewals will be charged the new price soon?

no information gives the exact prices users will be charged, so if any UK user suddenly gets an invoice for a higher price, just tell then to take a running jump as if they deal with UK customers then they have to adhere to UK laws which means they must LEGALLY give you at least 14 days notice of any price increase but informing you of the increase and the reason for the increase and also allowing you to cancel any contract without incurring any charges.
 

easyhostmedia

Well-known member
Y'all crack me up. 10 cents per account and the sky is falling.

Raise the price of your packages by 10 cents.

Their "Effective immediately" breaks the law in the UK as they MUST legally give at least 14 days written notice of any price increase with the prices and the reason behind this.
So far nowhere in any general information dies it mention the actual prices.

So any of their UL customers if not given 14 days notice of the price can tell them then are not paying the increase and cPanel cannot do anything about it, they cannot suspend or close accounts, they cannot just take the increased amount as doing any of these will mean they are committing a criminal offence.
 
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