Extra IPs

You can easily get 3 additional IPs , however you will have to provide the justification .. the purpose for which you need the additional IPs to your server provider.
 
Now with SNI, there is no longer the need to have too many IP addresses on a VPS.
We normally provide 2 IPs on different Class C networks (for want of a better description). As this is the requirement for nameservers if you are running DirectAdmin or C'Panel.

Usually we can provide more, but as the previous hosts have stated, we normally need a reason. Most the time we are not going directly to RIPE, but to an upsteam provider, but they too need to provide a reason to ARIN or RIPE. So it's faster and easier to provide this information at the offset.
 
ughosting said:
Now with SNI, there is no longer the need to have too many IP addresses on a VPS.
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That is true, but Symantec and Comodo still say an SSL works better on its own Dedicated IP. SNI is fine if you just have a basic DV SSL, but for an OV or EV then best to get a dedicated IP.
 
I guess, why you need the IP's is the real question.
ipv4 is scarce, you won't get it without real justification.
No, SSL isn't a justification any longer
No, SEO isn't a justification
 
I've never been rejected an IP number when we need to install an SSL Certificate. Yes there is fewer of them in the world today than there were 4 or 5 years ago, but there's still plenty around.

@whmcsguru - what is your justification for a need of an IP, if SSL is not a valid reason?
 
SSL is no longer a valid reason for IP justification. SNI removes that necessity.
There are justifications for IP's, though I'm not going to help you out and give them to you. Do your own homework :)
 
It is depends on hosting providers and you need to mention the usage of the IP's so that you can get more additional IP's,If you are not using it any spamming purpose so you have to contact your hosting provider and tell them your requirement in brief
 
whmcsguru said:
There are justifications for IP's, though I'm not going to help you out and give them to you. Do your own homework :)
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Seriously - that's a copout answer!! :smash:

I personally have no need to have an alternate answer, as every host I've ever worked with has NO PROBLEM with SSL being justification.

Heck, when I had servers at SingleHop, I requested just over 2,000 IP addresses, and the justification was eCommerce sites with SSL Certificates. And yes, we had more than 2,000 sites that we were moving there.

Just 3 weeks ago I requested 9 IP Addresses for 9 websites we were launching, and eCommerce and SSL Certificates was a warranted justification.

Of course, I actually HAD eCommerce sites to put on those IPs, so that makes me different than many people requesting stuff.

So, I reject your answer :D
 
If you are a member of RIPE they give you a /22, so they can't be that scarce.

I've no problem giving IPs for SSL eCommerce sites, but if the same person has 500 different eCommerce sites, I would not give them 500 IPs. If they have 500 different customers, with SSL and eCommerce, then I would do my damn best to provide them.

I don't think sites you make your living from ought to be shared with other customers.

That's why shared hosting uses shared IPs, but our Elastic-Sites have dedicated IPs. Elastic Sites after all are a "VPS Replacement/Enhancement" and VPSs would have their own IP.
 
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ughosting said:
If you are a member of RIPE they give you a /22, so they can't be that scarce.
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They are not, it was just a rumour to get more people using IPv6 addresses, but nameservers etc. wont work using IPV6 addresses

ughosting said:
I don't think sites you make your living from ought to be shared with other customers.
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That is why i dont like cpanel forcing sites to use their autoSSL system and give all accounts a free SSL
 
In the past, yes SSL has been an acceptable answer for IP addresses, however IPV4 is out, done, kaput. There is no more. Proper justification is necessary for additional IP addresses. Since SSL can be achieved through SNI, it's no longer an acceptable justification.
 
whmcsguru said:
In the past, yes SSL has been an acceptable answer for IP addresses, however IPV4 is out, done, kaput. There is no more. Proper justification is necessary for additional IP addresses. Since SSL can be achieved through SNI, it's no longer an acceptable justification.
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so you know more that Symantec and Comodo who both still prefer a dedicated IP for OV and EV SSL certs.

Infact to have an EV issued the domain must be on it own IP
 
Some provider want to sell IP at $5 and show you that IPv4 is very expensive and low availability but soon people will start using IPv6 and I hope that google will give priority to IPv6 user so everyone can quickly migrate to IPv6.

I do not give IPs without valid reason but If customer purchase dedicated server and have a valid reason then I can assign /26.

For VPS, I don't hesitate to assign 4 Extra IP for SSL purpose, etc.
 
Nobody's going to "quickly" migrate to ipv6, it's entirely too complex.
ipv4 was kind of complicated, having to remember 4 sets of numbers, but ipv6 is just a frigging nightmare.
This is probably why adaptation is just so damn slow
 
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