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How were you able to determine it is owned by Bluehost and what is the relevance.
From what I know it is not owned by Bluehost. Perhaps by a former Bluehost employee but it would be a big stretch to say they are owned by Bluehost.
 
Blue said:
How were you able to determine it is owned by Bluehost and what is the relevance.
From what I know it is not owned by Bluehost. Perhaps by a former Bluehost employee but it would be a big stretch to say they are owned by Bluehost.
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the whois record http://whois.domaintools.com/betterlinux.com

Registrar: FastDomain Inc.
Provider Name....: BlueHost.Com
Provider Whois...: whois.bluehost.com
Provider Homepage: http://www.bluehost.com/

Domain Name: BETTERLINUX.COM

Created on..............: 2010-08-31 00:50:08 GMT
Expires on..............: 2020-08-31 00:50:09 GMT
Last modified on........: 2011-08-17 16:54:18 GMT

Registrant Info: (FAST-18446881)

Domain Privacy Service
1958 South 950 East
Provo, Utah -
United States
Phone: +1.8017659400
Fax..:
Email: whois@bluehost.com
 
That just tells us that a domain name is registered with Bluehost.com and has private whois data enabled.

BetterLinux is run by Matt Heaton, former CEO of Bluehost.com. It is not owned by Bluehost.
 
Artashes said:
That just tells us that a domain name is registered with Bluehost.com and has private whois data enabled.

BetterLinux is run by Matt Heaton, former CEO of Bluehost.com. It is not owned by Bluehost.
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google Matt Heaton shows he is still Bluehost CEO and bluehost, hostmonster and therefore betterlinux are owned by Endurance International Group
 
You must be using a different Google than I am.
Nothing indicates that Matt is still with Bluehost.
 
Blue said:
You must be using a different Google than I am.
Nothing indicates that Matt is still with Bluehost.
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well i have googles, used yahoo etc. and stil shows Matt as CEO of Bluehosat. also just look at betterlinus and the only sites that seem to be kisted using it are Bluehost, Hostmonster and Endurance International Group, which seems strange as these are sites that are owned by Endurance International Group, so therefore betterlinux is part of Bluehost which are owned by Endurance International Group. I bet we will soon see another site (hostgator) listed on betterlinux as if the rumors are correct Endurance International Group have bought out Hostgator.
 
You should give Dan Handy a call then and tell him he is not the actual CEO of Bluehost.
 
Blue said:
You should give Dan Handy a call then and tell him he is not the actual CEO of Bluehost.
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well google, Yahoo, alta vista, wikipedia etc. are all out dated then

but regardless the whois info shows that Bluhost still run betterlinux
 
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No. It does not.
Whois information tells you absolutely ZERO about the company other than who they registered their domain name with.
 
Blue said:
No. It does not.
Whois information tells you absolutely ZERO about the company other than who they registered their domain name with.
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thats because they have privacy enabkles, which even makes it more suspicious as what are they hiding.

as whois details are suppose to tell who a domain is registered with and who owns the domain along with the owners email address and the nameservers of the domain
 
Irrelevant.
You claimed that this company was owned by Bluehost. It clearly is not.

To suspect that someone is hiding something is a bit silly.
 
Blue said:
To suspect that someone is hiding something is a bit silly.
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It is not silly in the hosting industry, hiding their details in whois raises suspicions and how do you know where they are actually based, yes you will know where the domain is registered and possibly where the servers are located, but not the true owner or location of the site owner.
 
Ok. Whatever bud.
You made a claim that was clearly false. You can continue to dance around it all you like but the fact remains. What you could have done was just admit your error and stop bringing irrelevant issues into the matter.
 
Using private whois is a lot more common. The reasons for that could be multiple: (a) to remain private, (b) to protect yourself from senseless spam and telemarketing calls, (c) providing information that could be irrelevant and confusing, which could be the case with larger corporations, and as such (d) streamline the communication channel available via the website (to avoid people contacting the company via wrong contact information).

Sorry, Terry, you cannot rely on Google, Yahoo or especially Wikipedia to be immediately updated. Not everything is current. The fact is - Matt Heaton runs BetterLinux. He used to be the CEO of Bluehost.com. He writes so himself here (and presents the new CEO). Why are you arguing?

Regardless of that, how is owner of the domain name/product relevant to the capability and feature set of the product itself?
 
some tlds will not allow you to hide the whois information is your register the domain under a business name.

.uk domains if you register the domain under a business name Nominet will not allow privacy hidden.

this is to protect the consumer as using the whois info they know exactly where the domain owner is located.

their are many sites out their set up selling counterfeit goods but sites look like the real thing with similar domain names but with whois hidden. using traceroutes etc. you then find these are run by someone in china etc. this is why it always sets alarm bells ringing when whois details are hidden. i for one will not purchase anything from a site with hidden whois as you have no real idea where they are based.
 
easyhostmedia said:
i for one will not purchase anything from a site with hidden whois as you have no real idea where they are based.
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Unless you do some very simple searching that has nothing to do with the domain registration.

I would hate to have to base all of my dealings dependent on what the whois information is. I would probably never be able to do an online transaction if I was that paranoid.
 
Blue said:
Unless you do some very simple searching that has nothing to do with the domain registration..
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but whois is their as the name states WHO IS the domain owner.

this is the whole point of the whois feature. a .uk domain could be registered with fasthosts in the UK but hosted in LA, USA, but run by someone in china with a site pertaining to be tiffany.co.uk. they hide their whois, you can 100% guarantee people would purchase thinking they were buying from tiffany until they find out they are not getting their goods what they have paid for, because the whois is hidden they arent aware the site is run by someone in china as a scam.

so really hiding whois info is a big no no these days, with more and more scam sites appearing. prime examples http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=324093
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=3318462
 
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You can invest your money in a popular stock and lose your money.
Not that nobody knew who the owners/management of Enron, Xerox, Worldcom were.

At the same time world's largest companies like Amazon, eBay, Boeing and most likely your own bank institution are all listing their corporate legal entities as owners, not any individuals in particular (which to me is the same as having private information in the first place). But it doesn't stop you from shopping, banking or flying, is it? Hell, ANYONE can put FALSE information into the whois tomorrow, be it Tiffany or The Easyhost Media Group. Who will stop them?

It comes down to personal choice. If you refuse to purchase any services/products solely on private whois - that's your choice. But do not convey the message that private whois equal scam, or even anywhere remotely to scam. If a person is dumb enough to purchase from a fake retailer, that's their own fault, not of the retailer.
 
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